Posted on 03/04/2016 6:27:06 AM PST by xzins
Trump won the debate with Kasich tied. Trump prevails because he was forced to debate 3 moderators who had coordinated with Mitt Romney, who had done his share a few brief hours earlier. He also had to debate 3 candidates, one of whom was independent and the other 2 clearly hitching to the Romney bandwagon.
1. Trump A-
2. Kasich A-
3. Cruz B
4. Rubio - F
I. Fox moderators have stated they spend huge amount of time and analysis preparing their questions.
Then they got down to business, talking through questions. The moderators have spent weeks writing (and rewriting) about 100 potential questions, roughly half of which will actually be asked. Though they have eight to 10 broad topics they plan to raise, including immigration and the economy, the moderators found themselves working down to the wire to refine their questions and think through smart follow-ups.
Every day I spend a fair amount of time on my iPhone tightening them, redoing them, refining them, further researching them, bolstering them, eliminating them, and starting anew on some, Ms. Kelly said.
II. One caveat to this process is 'late breaking news'.
Bill Sammon, vice president for news and Washington managing editor, urged the group to keep in mind two additional types of queries: timely ones off late-breaking news and ones we might have missed..
III. So, leaving their carefully scripted questions they have agonized over, the moderators picked up LAST MINUTE orchestrated attempt to INFLUENCE the debate, AND they made it the headliner in their questioning of only one candidate.
IV. Likewise, two other candidates took their cues from the Romney attempt to influence and hung their responses on that same intrusion by a failed former candidate.
V. Trump was hit with this at the last minute on a debate day. One has to truly admire his ability to deal with it.
VI. Fox committed journalistic bigotry by coordinating their questions with an obviously bitter, partisan attack.
1. Trump, A-....For the above reasons and for still being standing, Trump wins the first half of the debate.
2. Kasich, A-...Kasich refused to participate in the Romney attack and in the moderator instigated attacks. Additionally, his answers were very substantial. His response to the Flint water crisis was truly a response from an experienced man. His reminder that he actually worked with Ronald Reagan was another home run. Kasich wins 2nd half of the debate.
3. Cruz, B...Cruz gave some good responses on the legal system about which he is very knowledgeable. He made no real stumbles except his using the Romney coordinated attack.
4. Rubio, F-....Rubio called for an all-out war with full commitment of our troops in the middle east. It went by unnoticed. The guy fancies himself a Little Napoleon.
O’Reilly just lost a court case for custody of his children.
In the last few days.
Who exactly is the GOPe? Is it one person or a group? How does Rinse fit in? He tries to act like he is above the fray.
I don’t think I share your view of what “unethical” means? I also don’t think that asking tough questions of the frontrunner is some big scandal.
Is Fox News supposed to play pattycake with Trump, or anyone else?
People want to see what he says when he is challenged on his flip flops and incoherent arguments.
You mean like asking Trump how he saves $1 trillion dollars by eliminating a department that costs $80 billion?
Or asking how he saves $300 million in medicare prescription costs when the entire expenditure is $300 million?
Those kinds of issue questions?
Trump turns any chance to reveal actual details into ramblings about polls and how great he's going to make things.
The proper response to a childish insult is to just ignore it. It made Rubio look stupid. Correct me if I am wrong but Trump brought up the subject in last night's debate and did it in a way that made him look very insecure. Why did Trump feel the necessity to get it on the record that he doesn't have penis size issues? Act like an adult and let the silly little insult pass.
Agreed.
GOPe:
The Donor Class, the Washington D.C. “K” Street lobbyists, and establishment “conservative” media based in D.C. and NYC. These are the primary culprits.
Many of them shuttle between positions as bureaucratic functionaries, private business, and politicians. They are also called “The Ruling Class.” Or as I like to call them from time to time: “The Axis of Evil.”
I don’t think parents around the country were putting their hands over their kids’ ears.
I also think that the media relentlessly played the Rubio/Penis loop for days. They didn’t worry about “kids” then.
But last night it suddenly is an issue.
Why did Trump respond?
Trump ALWAYS responds. He established that long before the ‘penis’ comment by Rubio.
I’ve never heard the ‘hands and penis’ thing that Rubio says is ‘what everyone says’. I heard ‘feet’ in that regard.
I wonder what kind of circles Rubio runs in???
Trump won by virtue of the fact that ALL fire was trained upon him and he came through virtually unscathed. He stood his ground. He didn’t back down. It was like watching 5 wolves trying to take down a bull moose.
Precisely.
Kasich was honorable.
But the 3 moderators
the two candidates Cruz and Rubio
And Mitt Romney
It was 6 on 1 last night, and Trump was still standing.
Even in the old WWE that would have been unheard of.
This had every appearance of being staged, and then when Fox chose to have their initial set of questions based on it, and then to return to it regularly throughout the debate gave every reason to consider it coordinated.
I’ve no doubt it was. Proof is that detailed analysis of how they come up with questions and the time they put into it.
They did these in a rush job to accommodate Romney.
Absolutely.
Trump lost. He never explained his business failures.
What exactly was wrong about the debate?
He explained every one.
Which ones do you think weren’t explained?
He explained every one.
Which ones do you think weren’t explained?
None of them. Unless it was the first ten minutes I missed.
No, he did NOT. He simply did what he’s been doing — promoting constitutional principles and attacking Trump for his lack of same. Plus, talking about other problems in Trump’s record.
The only reason Kasich scored that high is everyone ignored him. No attacks at all. Amazing he got any questions.
So they spend weeks and weeks preparing questions for the debate EXCEPT the very day that Romney gives an anti-Trump speech, and they use his speech liberally in their debate questioning.
Doesn’t pass the credibility test.
It was coordinated.
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