Posted on 02/29/2016 10:27:27 AM PST by Citizen Zed
The word Conservative does not mean to the people here what it means to Washington.
I read the definition of conservative on the internet, and it is vastly different from what Republican politicians use.
I think the political definition would be “rube with deep pockets, people more concerned about lip-service than results, those who suffer from memory loss”
Ted Cruz, R, TX, A 97% https://www.conservativereview.com/scorecard [#2 behind Mike Lee]
“To put Cruz’s voting record in context . . . Club for Growth says Cruz scored 92 percent in 2014 and 100 percent in 2013 on the Club for Growth scorecard, ranking eighth in 2014 and first in 2013 among senators . . . Cruz scored 95 percent on the National Taxpayers Union’s 2013 scorecard, ranking the Texas senator third out of 100 senators . . . Cruz did even better in the American Conservative Union ratings. Cruz got a perfect score in 2014 and 2013 and has a lifetime rating of 100 percent” http://www.factcheck.org/2016/01/cruzs-conservative-credentials/
Trump and Cruz are very different, but I am disappointed in those on FR who judge Cruz by the dishonest or out of context campaign attacks on him. Taken as a whole and in context, he is far better than any candidate we saw from Reagan in 1984 until the current election. Whether you think Trump is better (I think Trump is less conservative but more electable) or not, Cruz is among the best we have in office today. He’s not a “nasty little piece of tissue” on your shoe, and that sort of unjustified rhetoric is unbecoming to a thoughtful conservative site like FR.
Restroom and I hope someone remembers to flush.
The Establishment is more concerned about losing power over the Party (and patronage within it), than they are about losing the election.
The enthusiasm for Trump currently is all reflected in the primary voters who cast their ballots for him. He will get very few votes beyond that in the general election. What constituency will he have beyond those already raving about him? Its not as if he as an unknown that will grow on people over the summer. He is 100% known right now.
Well, heights doesn’t speak for me. There is a lot of boiling emotions right now.
Hopefully we all can get past this in the future.
Silver is almost 100% data based. Not a whole lot of opinion is his various analyses. He’s also very accurate with his predictions. That being said he’s been on his Twitter feed the last few weeks talking about how a number of statistical precedents have been broken so it’s possible that this election and Trump are a black swan event.
As someone who was involved with data analysis and analytics most of their professional life I have great respect for Nate Silver’s work. Trump is set to shake up the model. No matter what one believes it takes a significant earthquake to actually move reliable models (and the earth). This may be one of those major earthquakes. It may just affect the Republican Party or it may affect the whole electorate.
That is your right. I would not deride you for making it.
I’m one that won’t and I’m certainly not alone.
There actually is leadership, and the leadership is actively opposing the small government agenda of real conservatives. It’s nice to see them fail.
Kind of supports the narrative that the vast majority of Trump supporters are under-educated, i.e. lacking a college degree.
Hoo-boy, am I going to get mauled for this...lol!
To my FRiends who support Trump, I fully acknowledge that tomorrow will likely be a decisive day for the Trump and Cruz camps.
For whichever side wins, may all sides join forces to focus their rancor on Hillary. Bernie's a dead man walking.
sorry, you’re wrong according to polls that have had Cruz beating Hitlery for some time now... are you really unaware of them or just being a typical sTrumpetron ?
ymmv
There is no statistical evidence that Conservatives stayed home in 2012.
Four million “white” voters stayed home in 2012, and many people just assume “white” means Conservative.
In 2012, Romney actually got 1.5 million more “white” votes than McCain got in 2008.
In 2012, Obama lost 5.5 million “white” votes compared to 2008.
Anyone who disputes my statements can do the same basic junior high school math I did.
Wikipedia has the Congressional Certified vote totals for 2012 and 2008:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2012
The Cornell-Roper Center has the National Exit Pool (NEP) racial and ethnic voting percentages:
http://ropercenter.cornell.edu/polls/us-elections/how-groups-voted/how-groups-voted-2012/
Certainly possible and would be fun to watch from a data perspective (I do forecasting as a profession). “Black swan” events don’t come around often. But 2008 gave us the financial crisis which swept Obama into power. There isn’t one of those “events” going on but Trump might be that type of candidate.
My gut feel is of he wins the nomination it will be an abject disaster for the GOP and will be a total landslide for Hillary and the Dems. But that’s based on logic and “conventional wisdom” which is being thrown out the window right now :-)
I will not vote for Trump.
He is no better, no worse than Hillary.
We will write in Ted Cruz if We have to and there are thousands more of us.
There is a “just in case” write in movement right now.
So I guess that all those votes for Trump in SC were from non-conservatives.
Polls have show roughly 50% of non-Trump Republicans (so 30% or so) state they will not vote for Trump in the general election:
Now, there may be a big change of heart when staring at PIAPS, but probably not.
There are a LOT of Republicans who just can’t support Trump.
I might be able to stuff my nose with cotton and pull the lever for Trump, but it would be very hard to do.
How does one write in on an electronic ballot.
He will thank you for your vote and there will be three others to take your place making calls and walking door-to-door.
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