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Don’t Assume Conservatives Will Rally Behind Trump
FiveThirtyEight ^ | 2-29-2016 | NATE SILVER

Posted on 02/29/2016 10:27:27 AM PST by Citizen Zed

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To: Citizen Zed

Plouffe’s assessment that a general election with Trump on the ballot is hard to predict and that Trump “could lose in a landslide or win narrowly.”

Then again he might WIN in a LANDSLIDE!

The question I have is centered around his first two
years in office. Will the GOPE facilitate the changes
the electorate wants to make by putting Trump in office,
or will they fight him every step of the way. Thereby
throwing away the best chance we have of seeing the
change we believe Trump exemplifies.
Perhaps we can hold the House and Senate for four years
but it’s up for grabs in just two, and what would be
the point of holding it if obstruction is all we see.


41 posted on 02/29/2016 10:49:23 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Citizen Zed

I will go back and read the whole post but when I got to the word “realignment” it hit me like a brick that the GOPe have wanted a middle of the road candidate for years! Why are they not supporting DT? I think it’s because he doesn’t take advice from anyone except his lawyers. LOL


42 posted on 02/29/2016 10:49:25 AM PST by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: Iowa David
I am one of the movement conservatives that is tired of holding my nose and voting for someone year after year. If Trump is the nominee I will have to hold my nose with both hands. Trump is not a conservative, I am. I am also one of those people that make calls and walk precincts. I will not be walking or calling for Trump.

That's about it. And there are lots of us longtime conservatives likewise who cannot stand Trump.

43 posted on 02/29/2016 10:50:02 AM PST by Charles Henrickson (Social and constitutional conservative)
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To: Jay Thomas

See post 35 as Exhibit A.


44 posted on 02/29/2016 10:50:58 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Citizen Zed

I will vote for Trump. Ted Cruz is my first choice, but I would vote for my neighbor’s cat over she-who-shall-not-be-named. So Donald Trump will do.


45 posted on 02/29/2016 10:51:03 AM PST by Rummyfan (Let us now try liberty.)
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To: Citizen Zed

I will vote for Trump, but rally behind him? After he calls Ted Cruz the Biggest Liar he’s ever known? (presumably a Bigger liar than Hillary Clinton?). Well sorry Trumpmaniacs, I don’t owe the Donald diddly squat.


46 posted on 02/29/2016 10:51:44 AM PST by DaxtonBrown (wrote Harry Reid.s only biography www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: Citizen Zed

If the “Very Conservative” elites cared so much about “conservatives” they’d have been screaming at congress for the last 8 months (or more) as loudly as they are screaming at Trump and his supporters now. And they’d be screaming at this year’s congress as much as they’re screaming at the voters. Congress will be doing things this year. And they could have already shown this year that the Republican party is conservative. If the establishment isn’t able to get conservative things done when they control congress, then they aren’t much use.

It’s hard for me to see how these people are concerned about conservative ideas and values. It’s easy for me to conclude that they are concerned about staying in charge and have no intent to govern as conservatives.


47 posted on 02/29/2016 10:52:03 AM PST by LostPassword
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To: Citizen Zed
"But if Trump wins in November, you might as well relocate the Republican National Committee’s headquarters to Trump Tower."

The men's room at Grand Central works for me.

48 posted on 02/29/2016 10:52:35 AM PST by Rummyfan (Let us now try liberty.)
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To: jospehm20

I would say the Republicans have not been a Conservative party since 1989 with the exception of the rally in 1994. That rally was quickly throttled by Bob Dole and his RINO cohorts in the Senate who undermined Gingrich and the conservative insurgency. They blocked the marriage amendment and undermined the government shutdown.


49 posted on 02/29/2016 10:54:03 AM PST by georgiarat (Obama, providing incompetence since Day One!)
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To: Citizen Zed

Huge undiscussed variable. Hillary’s indicted, Crazy Joey steps in and draws away male blue collar voters.


50 posted on 02/29/2016 10:54:36 AM PST by ameribbean expat
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To: georgiarat

I was thinking the same but it seems to me they went even more full lib after the impeachment of BJ Clinton failed.


51 posted on 02/29/2016 10:55:22 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: Jay Thomas; heights

Not heights, he has flat out said he doesn’t want Cruz supporters to support Trump.


52 posted on 02/29/2016 10:55:58 AM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius (www.wilsonharpbooks.com - Sign up for my new release e-mail and get my first novel for free)
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To: Jewbacca

Trump just makes shit up as he goes.


53 posted on 02/29/2016 10:56:29 AM PST by Wyatt's Torch
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To: Jewbacca
Only the fact that Hillary is so bad could drag me.

Yes that is a really big factor. I'm thinking "End Times" therefore politics is dead and I need to focus on higher things.

54 posted on 02/29/2016 10:57:52 AM PST by DungeonMaster (the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.)
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To: Citizen Zed

Works for me!

The “conservative” DNA has long since been purged from the Republican Party and the party Liberal’s are committing FRAUD each time they make such a claim. It is nothing more or less than a criminal organization that should be prosecuted as such under RICO laws!

Good riddance!


55 posted on 02/29/2016 10:58:17 AM PST by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid)
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To: georgiarat

Silver is almost 100% data based. Not a whole lot of opinion is his various analyses. He’s also very accurate with his predictions. That being said he’s been on his Twitter feed the last few weeks talking about how a number of statistical precedents have been broken so it’s possible that this election and Trump are a black swan event.


56 posted on 02/29/2016 10:58:57 AM PST by Wyatt's Torch
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To: Jay Thomas

I was a Cruz first, Trump second initially but he will never get my vote, I will vote for the most conservative candidate. Trump isn’t a conservative at all.

I will vote for Gary Johnson or the Constitutional party candidate.


57 posted on 02/29/2016 10:59:05 AM PST by Leto
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To: Jewbacca

One or two more elections, and they would wrest control from the Mitch McConnels and John McCains of the world.

And now it will probably all get pissed away.


Just who would wrest that control away? Cornyn? Alexander? Corker? Graham? Ayotte? Collins?

Cruz has zero influence, Lee is controlled by Hatch and Romney. Nothing will change from within. Only major external influence can change direction. That has to be Trump.


58 posted on 02/29/2016 10:59:24 AM PST by georgiarat (Obama, providing incompetence since Day One!)
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To: Jewbacca

That’s unfortunate. Stuff like that is completely uncalled for.


59 posted on 02/29/2016 11:00:38 AM PST by Jay Thomas (If not for my faith in Christ, I would despair.)
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To: j.argese

“Then there is that nasty little piece of tissue that has the nasty habit of following the unaware out on their shoe.”

And that kind of crap is exactly why Donald Trump’s Orc army of mindless hatchet men deserve zero support, other than a perfunctory flip of the voter switch to prevent Hillary from being coronated. After that, we owe you zilch, zippo, nada. I will fight every autocratic non-conservative blunder Trump tries to bully through congress. You guys are the true nasty little pieces of tissue.


60 posted on 02/29/2016 11:01:32 AM PST by DaxtonBrown (wrote Harry Reid.s only biography www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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