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Honest Question about Trump to Trump Lovers
Punditfact ^ | July 9 2015 | will cabaniss

Posted on 02/27/2016 2:44:25 PM PST by applpie

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To: applpie

Trump’s donations just prove that all politicians can be bought.


61 posted on 02/27/2016 3:19:49 PM PST by McGruff (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results)
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To: applpie
How does Donald Trump stand there with a straight face and act as if he is not part of the "pay for political favors" game when he donates a large amount of money on a regular basis to many, many politicians; "his friends" he calls them.

To the best of my knowledge, Trump has always stated the opposite of what you contend about donations. He has said in his speeches I've listened to that he has donated to politicians in both parties for his own personal gain.

He said that he has played the game taking advantage of political donations, legal loopholes, tax loopholes for his personal gain.

The real question is whether or not to trust that he wants to or will be effective as POTUS in steering the US in the direction we want to see it go.

62 posted on 02/27/2016 3:20:07 PM PST by sockhead
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To: applpie

Ask Bill Gates what happens to you and your company if you refuse to play politics.

Why do so many Hollywood people come out for liberal causes?

Because they want to work.

It’s the same in business, it’s been pay to play for a loooong time now, something even Trump has addressed.


63 posted on 02/27/2016 3:21:09 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of Socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: KansasGirl

Then you must be voting for Ben Carson for his integrity.


64 posted on 02/27/2016 3:22:34 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: Tenacious 1
I should quit drinking and sober up before I post anymore.

I dunno, I thought that was a pretty, hic, good post....hic!

;)

65 posted on 02/27/2016 3:23:37 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of Socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: applpie

Well, I’m obviously not voting, but I can tell you why I would vote for Trump if I could.

Trump is saying all of the right things. He is saying he will put up the wall, put in practices that will cause self-deportation, deport the rest, bring business back to the country, stop the lousy bad-for-America deals, rid the world of ISIS, do something to correct the trade deficit, is pro-life (regardless of what he has supported in the past), will prosecute the Clinton Crime Family, will stop immigration that could hurt the country, etc.

Now, there’s no guarantee that he’ll do all of these things. However, what I look at is the fact that politicians (most of whom are lawyers) have been saying a lot of the right things for years, and ALL OF THEM have basically done NOTHING to follow through.

Trump has such a record of success, and a very big ego. This tells me that he would be determined to do everything in his power to follow through on what he has talked about. I can’t imagine him getting into office and NOT trying to accomplish what he’s set out to do, for the sake of his own reputation.

So, that’s it in a nutshell. The politicians have gotten you into the mess you’re in - it could be that a brash, egotistical, politically INCORRECT, humdinger of a businessman might get you on the right track, regardless of who he has given to and what he has said in years gone by.

You have nothing to lose. Rubio is bad news, Cruz is iffy, and would never get elected, and God forbid you get Hitlery or Sanders. You have no choice.


66 posted on 02/27/2016 3:24:08 PM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: applpie

He’s said many times that he gave money to candidates on both side, but more to Republicans. Nothing new here.


67 posted on 02/27/2016 3:24:08 PM PST by bigbob ("Victorious warriors win first and then go to war" Sun Tzu.)
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To: applpie
You are making the mistake of evaluating his donations as if made by a politician rather than a businessman. Of course he donated to those in power to make or break his business. Call it protection money. It is how the game is played. More RATs than pubbies? Duh! Look at the New York delegation. And why waste money on the eunuchs ostensibly in the majority in Congress.

There may be other reasons to be cautious about Trump but this is not one of them. You must consider the context under which those donations were made.

68 posted on 02/27/2016 3:24:38 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Buchanan: A note of caution: This establishment is not going quietly.)
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To: austinaero

Ask him.

He’s said that donations to democrats were to gain access. He’s said it more than once. Something to the effect of;”They
‘d call me and ask for a donation and I’d donate because it gave me access”

He admits it and it is a reasonable explanation for the donations to democrats in a state that is dominated by demodogs

BTW I am supporting Mr Trump.


69 posted on 02/27/2016 3:25:20 PM PST by Fai Mao (Just a tropical gardiner chatting with friends)
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To: applpie
Obama promised to transform this nation and the spineless Republicans helped him do it. I am rather enjoying Trump expose corruption at the highest levels... And while I have no clue where things will end up, the American people are getting a real close up as to who their slave masters are and just what a bunch of degenerates they elect to represent them.
70 posted on 02/27/2016 3:25:34 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: applpie

It’s interesting that over the last 26 years that Trump has given twice as much to Republicans than he has to Democrats.

To answer your question I believe he has said that donations were a cost of doing business. He’s been pretty upfront about it.


71 posted on 02/27/2016 3:28:01 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: applpie
So why does he and America act as if he is some kind of virtuous outsider?

I think many people in this country like his plain speaking (I love the fact that he isn't politically correct) and just see him as the last chance. They may be right, because the other candidates (except Ben Carson) have been proven to be hopelessly intertwined with the GOP establishment or the big money donors. That is Cruz and Rubio. The other choice, Kasich, is a back-slapping "I'll cave on every serious issue to show what a good guy I am" liberal democrat calling himself a Republican.

I will say I think Trump is short on specifics and long on repetitive soundbites, and that some of his most fervent supporters, including some here on FR, are projecting onto him attitudes and policies that they hold dear but do not necessarily bear out in the candidate as of this point and time. Who knows; he may get into office and be the most conservative president ever, or he may be a mixed bag who pleases and enrages everyone.

My own position is that I am thrilled with no one on the GOP side, but I will vote for the nominee because Hillary as president is the death knell for America.
72 posted on 02/27/2016 3:28:16 PM PST by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

“Ask Bill Gates what happens to you and your company if you refuse to play politics.”

Bill Gates is another of the billionaire Liberals and monopolists operating an anti-conservative cartel. Microsoft Corporation should rightfully have forfeited its right to be a corporation and been dissolved, many of its patents and copyrights canceled, and with its remaining assets being auctioned to recompense its customers and the victims of its monopolist restraints on free trade.


73 posted on 02/27/2016 3:29:54 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: altura

His inheritance was $40MM split 5 ways in the family.

So you’re saying he has not increased his wealth...

Cruz Core Math


74 posted on 02/27/2016 3:30:08 PM PST by datura (Proud Infidel)
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To: altura
Trump is not a billionaire. That’s one reason he doesn’t want you to see his tax returns.

LOL, you are letting you emotions blur you thinking skill.

Tax returns do not show wealth, financial statements do.

Even corporate balance sheets would be better then a tax return which shows various type of income.

75 posted on 02/27/2016 3:30:11 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of Socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: applpie
Can someone who really likes Trump help me understand. Thanks.

When I was younger I would buy my way out of "problems" with money, lawyers, judges and cash in plain paper bags.

Never having been bought, I felt virtuous, much like the john and the hooker. Being very righteous, I would always look down my nose at "those crooked bastards" and never considered that I was even remotely tainted.

Youth and alcohol and money and drugs can screw up your moral compass, so that you can justify any perverted behavior. It took a long time and many hard lessons before I came to some semblance of normal.

76 posted on 02/27/2016 3:31:40 PM PST by USS Alaska (Exterminate the terrorist savages, everywhere.)
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To: digger48

Nice one dig


77 posted on 02/27/2016 3:32:10 PM PST by onona (I've held my nose so long I can't even remember what an election smells like !)
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To: altura
Trump is not a billionaire. That’s one reason he doesn’t want you to see his tax returns.

Yeah, because we ALL fly around on custom 757's donchaknow!

78 posted on 02/27/2016 3:32:12 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of Socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: patq

And politicians who vote for one another’s bills don’t pay to play? “You vote for mine, and I’ll vote for yours.”

Money’s not exchanged, per se, but power is.


79 posted on 02/27/2016 3:32:51 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: Tenacious 1
It happens 😀
80 posted on 02/27/2016 3:33:44 PM PST by onona (I've held my nose so long I can't even remember what an election smells like !)
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