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1 posted on 02/17/2016 4:51:49 PM PST by Leo Carpathian
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Technically they aren’t asking for a backdoor, they are asking for an OS update to be loaded onto this phone.

Either way bad juju for personal liberty.


2 posted on 02/17/2016 4:54:43 PM PST by big'ol_freeper (Trump: "Planned Parenthood does wonderful things")
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"Smells like another big lie from big brother in order to gain control of citizen's privacy."

Untold billions have been spent on the FBI, CIA, NSA and every other freakin' three-letter agency in the federal gov't and they can't crack an iPhone? Can we get our money back?

3 posted on 02/17/2016 4:57:20 PM PST by Flag_This (You can't spell "treason" without the "O".)
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Maybe if we say “please” the Chinese will tell us what’s on it.


5 posted on 02/17/2016 4:59:31 PM PST by Flag_This (You can't spell "treason" without the "O".)
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ISIS to move to strings and tomato soup cans.


7 posted on 02/17/2016 5:03:45 PM PST by stocksthatgoup (Trump for me. I want to see Hillary, Bernie or any demoncrap crushed)
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The only reason I have no problems with this one device is that it was his employer’s phone. It is not your privacy if your employer is paying for it.


8 posted on 02/17/2016 5:06:27 PM PST by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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Pretty humorous that Apple is being forced to go in through the back door considering who their CEO is.


9 posted on 02/17/2016 5:07:26 PM PST by KevinB (Barack Obama: Our first black, gay, Kenyan, Socialist, Muslim president!)
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honestly, why do people make such a big deal? No, ordinary Americans don’t have to worry. Only Radical Islamic Terrorists need worry. The liberals who either think roses not government should protect America or whose hearts bleed for Islams are aiding the enemy.


10 posted on 02/17/2016 5:08:00 PM PST by TraditionalMerica
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What if Apple says: give us this particular phone.

We will dump it and give you the contents. That’s all, no ‘tool’ or back door.

Problem is that Apple will have demonstrated the ability to get into a phone, and ... caved and set a prescedent.


11 posted on 02/17/2016 5:08:03 PM PST by Scrambler Bob (As always, /s is implicitly assumed. Unless explicitly labled /not s. Saves keystrokes.)
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Clearly, you know little about cyber security including what a “back door” is. The FBI is NOT asking Apple for a back door.


12 posted on 02/17/2016 5:09:53 PM PST by House Atreides (CRUZ or lose!)
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The other 400 stories about this were not enough?


17 posted on 02/17/2016 5:12:57 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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private companies shouldn’t be compelled to help the gov’t investigate. the gov’t can hire their own geeks.


19 posted on 02/17/2016 5:13:10 PM PST by exist
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I think it should only be allowed WITH a warrant.

The Founding Fathers knew what they were doing, as always they hit a good balance: yes, sometimes it will be necessary for the state, in self preservation, to intrude to the greatest degree- but ONLY when the reason it needs to do so and the basis it has for the belief that doing so will yield usable and pertinent data is supported by facts and examined by a judge (and ideally any interested party).

Wiretapping, reading mail, breaking a phone - if the government cannot clearly state why and what well enough that you and I would agree with it then hell no. If they can then such is a necessary thing. It’s really just common sense that was perfectly well understood 200 years before such a thing as an iPhone.


20 posted on 02/17/2016 5:13:57 PM PST by RedStateRocker (Better questions that can't be answered than answers that can't be questioned.)
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22 posted on 02/17/2016 5:15:27 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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It’s stunning how many idiots just believe the Feds without question when they say they “need” something for “national security.” Why didn’t the FBI do surveillance of this known radical mosque, or the Boston Bombers’ one? Why did they clear this San Bernardino female terrorist who has known ties to a radical Imam? I don’t care if they get the cell phone number of the head of ISIS, it’s not worth them getting access to every iPhone in America,


23 posted on 02/17/2016 5:15:55 PM PST by montag813 (NO MORE BUSHES (or Clintons) EVER...Put it in the Constitution.)
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Apple, hold that line. Don’t cave in, the investigators do not need access to this. If they want to find out who these people were talking to, do the legwork.


25 posted on 02/17/2016 5:19:23 PM PST by Glad2bnuts (Obama, leader of the Jayvee team.)
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Tim should tell them to shove it.


26 posted on 02/17/2016 5:20:56 PM PST by Read Write Repeat
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They dont want to go to courts and get warrants.
They dont want anyone else knowing who they are prying into. For any reasons, good or bad.


33 posted on 02/17/2016 5:24:56 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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Since this is a major cyber security issue, someone should ask Hillary to give her opinion on this at a Town Hall somewhere.


41 posted on 02/17/2016 5:32:05 PM PST by GreenHornet
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Those who would trade essential liberties for a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety - Ben Franklin
42 posted on 02/17/2016 5:33:09 PM PST by BraveMan
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How about fighting this war the way it should be fought and not at the expense of MY rights?


49 posted on 02/17/2016 5:44:26 PM PST by mikey_hates_everything
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