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OREGON STANDOFF: Ammon Bundy's message got David Fry out, Arrests expected-2014 Bundy ranch
2/16/2016 | Self

Posted on 02/16/2016 5:28:46 AM PST by Nextrush

Ammon Bundy recorded a message from jail for his lawyer Mike Arnold, who worked to get it to David Fry, last Thursday

A number of people were sent the message including the livestream coordinator Gavin Seim, who found it in his 'inbox' and was ready to play it to Fry, but Fry received it on an FBI phone in the background of Thursday's livestream.

Seim posted a new video yesterday telling the story of what happened last Thursday to include the recorded message from Ammon Bundy that was played to David Fry during the quiet moments when Fry was hesitating to walk out and threatening suicide.

Gavin Seim said he wanted to 'correct misconceptions' reminding his viewers 'the FBI did not negotiate this out, the FBI from the very beginning were the criminals in all this, the FBI assassinated LaVoy Finicum, the FBI surrounded these guys (the final four on Wednesday Feb. 10th) and were trying not to negotiate but to instigate violence..."

Seim went on to to reiterate the point he's made in other videos that the massively viewed livestream last Wednesday deterred the FBI from killing the four people.

He also said that events went calmly on Thursday because the world was watching along with public figures like Franklin Graham and Nevada Assemblywoman Michele Fiore preventing the FBI from initiating violence.

The Ammon Bundy message played to David Fry last Thursday included this:

"David this is Ammon Bundy um I want you to know that there is a future out here uh and you have a future you've been valiant in your stand for your country and for your rights and that uh that your actions here really matter that we love you and yeah it will not be easy at first but we know that the American people are going to stand with us, they're going to stand for your rights, for my rights and that we're going to get this thing straightened out and that you need to be part of this even though it might be difficult for you for a few weeks um but we want you to be part of this we know you have been valiant in your stand and we ask you to, to, do not take your life and to come here and lets work this together and we know the American people are going to stand and make this right...."

So in the end it was Ammon Bundy who 'ended the occupation' with his recorded message.

An Oregon state legislator, Democrat Rep. Jeff Barker has fast-tracked legislation allowing courts to bar public disclosure of an officer who uses deadly force for 90 days.

Barker originally wanted a six month ban but he backed down when the American Civil Liberties Union said it would oppose it. The ACLU is neutral on this 90 day ban.

Barker introduced the legislation at the request of the Oregon State Police, fearful for the safety of the OSP officer who killed LaVoy Finicum at a roadblock they set up in front of the pursuing FBI Hostage Rescue Team on January 26th.

The bill was unanimously approved last Thursday in committee and now goes to the full State House.

When a SWAT team swooped down on Cliven Bundy and arrested him last Wednesday night, the arrest was with the 2014 confrontation at Bundy's Nevada ranch in mind.

Bundy was able to get the Bureau of Land Management agents to retreat and return hundreds of head of cattle they had impounded. He had the help of hundreds of people, many of them militia.

The Associated Press reports that more arrests are expected citing the criminal complaint against Cliven Bundy referring to at least four unnamed co-conspirators.

The complaint accuses the elder Bundy of directing the four and 'more than 200 followers' to impede the federal agents and their cowboys in the standoff.

And speaking of Nevada and Nevada issues like federal control of grazing land etc. etc. the political candidates will be looking for support in the Nevada Caucuses one week from today, February 23rd. Will any of them raise their voices about these matters?

So far there seems to be a deafening silence.


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KEYWORDS: ammonbundy; belongsinchat; davidfry; gavinseim; lavoyfinicum; mikearnold; oregon; oregonstandoff; plagiarism; vanity
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To: shibumi

21 posted on 02/16/2016 8:01:12 AM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: humblegunner; Nextrush; LucyT; StonyBurk; WildHighlander57; Faith65; Georgia Girl 2; Smokin' Joe; ..

I appreciate the information being shared by NextRush. It is IMPORTANT!

I am shocked that it isn’t all over Free Republic. Our fellow Americans were exercising their Constitutional Rights. The “authorities” have maligned their efforts at will, with the help of the media and the Government controlled press. These Patriots were summarily rounded up, arrested, ambushed, one was killed and one was wounded physically; Many have been scarred emotionally. Many have been jailed and are being held without bail.

Where is the outrage??? There are many American Families being targeted, threatened and harassed by the BLM, FBI, etc. Where is the outrage? The food source for America is being terrorized by the Government. Where is the outrage?

As LaVoy Finnicum’s daughters sing in their tribute to their Dad, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rZAvI1sQ8A
“Are you, are you going to agree?
Our Freedoms are waning and we’ll lose our liberty.
Slipping one by one until there’s nothing left to see.
Are you, are you willing to stand with me?
Are you, are you just going to let it be?
The Ranchers are first but brother next it may be me.
‘We all stand together or we’ll hang separately.’
Are you, Are you going to the tree?
Are you, are you willing to be free?
It won’t get any easier to regain lost liberty.
Strange things are happening in this land that once was free!
So Brother I ask you
Are you, are you going to stand by me?”


22 posted on 02/16/2016 8:34:22 AM PST by azkathy (OBAMA IS WEARING OUT MY CAPS LOCK!!!)
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To: humblegunner; nclaurel; Nextrush

...or maybe they’re written a little more coherently.


23 posted on 02/16/2016 8:36:48 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: azkathy

This from Victoria Sharp on Facebook, “My name is Victoria Sharp. I live in Lakeside, MT. When I traveled to Burns, OR, to join my family in singing at meetings and at the Wildlife Refuge, I never expected that I would witness the murder of an amazing patriot.
I honestly wish that I could erase from my mind everything that happened that day, but I know that I have a responsibility to LaVoy Finicum’s family, all patriots in the United States, and myself, to be strong and tell the truth about what happened on Jan. 26, 2016, when LaVoy was unjustly killed in a joint operation by the FBI and OSP.
I am now involved in a legal battle along with the Finicum family, and other law abiding patriots who were wrongfully thrown into jail. I need support from anyone who wants to see justice done to help me retain my constitutional attorney, Tim Baldwin. If you would like to donate toward my legal fund, please visit helpvictoriasharp.com.
I greatly appreciate everyone who supports me as I fight for justice! Please be sure to like and share this post, as well as take the time to like and share my Facebook page. Thank you so much! God bless!”


24 posted on 02/16/2016 9:16:26 AM PST by azkathy (OBAMA IS WEARING OUT MY CAPS LOCK!!!)
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To: Nextrush; goodnesswins; PROCON; Twotone; VeryFRank; Clinging Bitterly; Rio; aimhigh; Hieronymus; ...

If you would like more information about what's happening in Oregon, please FReepmail me.

I lost my Oregon list when my computer crashed last year, so please send me your name by FReepmail if you want to be on this list.

25 posted on 02/16/2016 9:18:31 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: shibumi; nclaurel; humblegunner; Larry Lucido; 50mm; Eaker; TheOldLady; thackney; Semper Mark; ...

26 posted on 02/16/2016 10:29:29 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway - "Enjoy Yourself" ala Louis Prima)
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To: Vendome

Too soon?


27 posted on 02/16/2016 10:32:02 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

It’s not like I’m doing my last Robin Williams impression.../S


28 posted on 02/16/2016 10:42:30 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway - "Enjoy Yourself" ala Louis Prima)
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To: Vendome

What is the picture supposed to signify


29 posted on 02/16/2016 10:52:27 AM PST by nclaurel
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To: nclaurel

Her stage name was Vanity


30 posted on 02/16/2016 11:13:02 AM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: Darksheare

Seems she has a bit of reason to be vain. :-)


31 posted on 02/16/2016 11:29:35 AM PST by nclaurel
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To: nclaurel

Not anymore, while she was one of the dancers at a Prince concert and rather easy n the eyes, she passed away recently due to health issues.


32 posted on 02/16/2016 11:30:40 AM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: nclaurel

Vanity


33 posted on 02/16/2016 12:12:48 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway - "Enjoy Yourself" ala Louis Prima)
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To: SquarePants

Apparently the moderator that moved this mess to chat is equally vapid and pathetic.

Perhaps you should write a vanity thread about it.


34 posted on 02/16/2016 12:32:25 PM PST by humblegunner (NOW with even more AWESOMENESS)
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To: azkathy; Nextrush
I appreciate the information being shared by NextRush. It is IMPORTANT!

It would be just as important if he posted it from whatever source he stole it from.
It would also then be news.. not a crappy vanity.

I am shocked that it isn't all over Free Republic.

Perhaps it would be if it were posted from actual sources.

Cobbling together a bunch a different sources and putting your own spin on it does not constitute news.

Standard crappy blogger practice.. or in this case.. it's a vanity.

Homeboy does his cause no favors by such actions.

35 posted on 02/16/2016 1:20:42 PM PST by humblegunner (NOW with even more AWESOMENESS)
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To: Nextrush

I love when a thread degrades


36 posted on 02/16/2016 2:58:00 PM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to irritate someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: humblegunner

Nah just you guy. That’s his job to do stuff like that, but only someone with literally nothing better to do is available to do what you do every day, all day.


37 posted on 02/16/2016 5:20:14 PM PST by SquarePants (Everywhere is walking distance if you have the time)
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To: SquarePants

Vanities are not news.
I can’t explain it any better than that, as I don’t speak dumbass nor have I any crayons.


38 posted on 02/17/2016 4:02:41 AM PST by humblegunner (NOW with even more AWESOMENESS)
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To: Nextrush
Perhaps that will explain your hostility to the posts.

Your vanity thread got pulled this morning.

Does that explain anything to you?

39 posted on 02/18/2016 1:27:35 PM PST by humblegunner (NOW with even more AWESOMENESS)
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