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Has FreeRepublic Jumped The Shark With Trump?
2/14/16 | OV

Posted on 02/14/2016 9:47:13 PM PST by OneVike

I have been a member of FreeRepublic since February 1998, and in all my years I have ever seen so many Freepers support, and defend such a leftist candidate as Donald Trump. In the old days, any candidate that spouted the rhetoric coming out of his mouth would have been received with unanimous hatred from Freepers.

Mitt Romney was met with scorn when he claimed to have changed and was more conservative than his record showed. However, The Donald says the same thing and he is allowed to wear his liberal record as badge of honor, because he has been born again. Never mind that his fruit smells like Skubala. Any Republican candidate in the past who supported partial birth abortion was considered dead on arrival with 99.9% of Freepers. Yet a vast number of Freepers today look at Trump's defense of PP, and attack the candidate who dares to bring it up at a debate.

Thinking I have stumbled in some black hole of Bizzaro World, I decided to spend most the night, after the debate yesterday, researching past posts and comments of many Freepers who support Trump. I must admit that I wasn't too shocked to see that not all, but the vast majority, of his supporters have joined FR within the last 8 years. However I pretty much only searched the opinions of his most ardent supporters.

Interestingly enough, the ones I researched, all demanded that both Houses of Congress go after Planned Parenthood for selling baby parts. Many of them even demanded that the House use their power of the purse to defund PP. Yet these very same individuals defend, and make excuse for Trump's defense of said abortion factory, or at least claim it's bothersome but will still support him. These same individuals, however, were demanding McConnell resign for failing to pass legislation in the senate defunding PP. I did similar searches on their opinions of various other topics that Trump defends which would normally be cause of revulsion from these supporters had it been any other politician.

Well, I must admit that I am rather stunned by the way they have so easily changed their stances.

Who would have known that those who accused Jimmy Carter of never meeting a dictator and communist he didn't like, would now tout that his endorsement of Trump is not Trumps problem, and some even claim it will help him with Democrat voters in November. So we are now to welcome a politician that will get votes from leftists?

I thought the idea was to win them over to conservatism, not to abandon our beliefs just to get them to vote for our guy. So when will Freepers decide we need to change our stances on topics like "Black Lives Matter" to get more blacks to vote for our guy, or maybe we can find a good Muslim candidate who has made billions and talks a good game. Hey, so what if he may support Sharia law, just think of all those Muslim votes we can get from refugees Obama shipped in and we could actually own Dearborn Michigan. There has got to be some great female politicians who support PP that we could get behind, After all, we do have a problem with the female vote, right?

Yea, I'm just an old timer with old time values from the days when The Donald was still giving money to the Clintons and laughing at Republicans for making such a big deal over BJs in the Oval Office. Yup, just a geezer who remembers the wall of separation set up by Jamie Gorelick to keep Clinton from being prosecuted over Witewater which led to the attack on 9/11.

I guess I'm a conspiracy believer who thinks 9/11 was Clinton's fault, not GW's, and that the Weapons of Mass Destruction the NY Times finally admitted existed were originally sold to the public by the Clinton's to help get the Democrats on board for the war on Iraq.

Those were the good old days when we used to rip apart fake politicians for trying too hard to fit into our club, instead of ripping the messengers for noticing a fake when we see one.

Yea, that was before FreeRepublic jumped the Shark.


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To: upsdriver
No opinion other than I hate the phrase "jump the shark".

Like "methinks." Or "begs the question" when used as "asks the question."


61 posted on 02/14/2016 10:14:50 PM PST by 867V309 (Trump: Bull in a RINO Shoppe)
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To: Lib-Lickers 2

I understand. These invaders need to be sent packing and soon.


62 posted on 02/14/2016 10:14:57 PM PST by dsm69 (Boycott News Media/Hollywood Advertisers)
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To: Slyfox

Let me educate you bozo - Cruz started this. Trump never said a word until Cruz hit him first. Then he gave it back 10x harder. Get your facts straight - your Cruzio isn’t without fault. In fact, he was making snide, nasty remarks behind not only Trump’s back, but Carsons as well. He is a snake in the grass, a back-stabbing liar, who said not to trust Trump or Carson’s judgment - then he hooks up with the likes of Glenn Beck. Trump built an empire on good judgment, and my God- Ben Carson - what can I say about that man with the gifted hands/
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63 posted on 02/14/2016 10:14:59 PM PST by Catsrus (I callz 'em as I seez 'em)
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To: xjcsa
"Yeah. I don’t get it. FR used to be conservative, used to care about policy."

I agree.

To go a bit further... I was attracted to this site years ago based on the "Free" and "republic" parts of the name which seem not to fit anymore.

I'm not sure I've heard the popular populist front runner mention either word.

Freedom is(was) America's founding principle. Conservatives don't always believe in freedom but they do more often than the never of the Left.

The wall is certainly The Don's big selling point. And I'm with him on that. We aren't even a nation if we can't point to where it starts physically.

But Freedom is not a something achieved by business-like compromise. You are either for it or against it.

Federal level involvement in health care is not Freedom.

Funding for death care is not Freedom.

"Getting things done" at the federal level is almost always not Freedom.

I'll vote for The Don if he captures the nom. It's the only mature option.

I'm probably not missing anything, but I have no idea anymore what a voting booth smells like. I've been holding my nose while voting for several presidential general elections now. I'm starting to sound like Andy Rooney.

64 posted on 02/14/2016 10:15:51 PM PST by BuddhaBrown (Path to enlightenment: Four right turns, then go straight until you see the Light!)
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To: OneVike

You get a standing O from me, my FReeper FRiend. As I have said before, who could have dreamed that it would be the conservatives who would have to swim upstream at FR? I’m flummoxed, confused, bewildered and scared spitless of what I’ve seen happening here. Here’s hoping you or any of us who come to agree with your assessment don’t get our memberships pulled as a result.


65 posted on 02/14/2016 10:16:22 PM PST by ru4liberty (I wish FR were still "The Premiere *CONSERVATIVE* Site on the Net" :'(.....)
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To: emotionalcripple

Christian converts don’t own houses of ill repute.

Sorry, I know tens of thousands of Christians, I have never ever met one who does.


66 posted on 02/14/2016 10:16:49 PM PST by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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To: Fhios

I know many young women who go there for birth control pills and not for abortions. The abortion aspect of PP is horrible, but, it isn’t the only thing they do. But, you can’t tell these pious, self-righteous Pharisees anything - they know better than anyone - including God.


67 posted on 02/14/2016 10:16:51 PM PST by Catsrus (I callz 'em as I seez 'em)
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To: Just mythoughts

Rather than this being a matter of holding Donald Trump to a higher standard, its a case of you holding him to no standard at all. Your candidate described himself as being “very pro-choice” and the video of his NBC interview is available. He’s been very liberal on the issue and we don’t owe him a pass.

Furthermore, you will not under any circumstance bother to bring up the fact that Ted Cruz voted against it in the Senate and raked the Republican leadership over the coals for doing it.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/28/ted-cruz-blasts-gop-leaders-funding-planned-parenthood/


68 posted on 02/14/2016 10:16:52 PM PST by A Conservative Thinker (Ted Cruz 2016)
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To: OneVike

This is what it looks like when a party loses its base because it betrayed them.

It’s no more complicated than that.


69 posted on 02/14/2016 10:17:11 PM PST by chris37 (heartless)
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To: OneVike; MattinNJ

Free Republic has changed a LOT since about 2007 or so. I miss the good old days of FR (which for me started in 2000).


70 posted on 02/14/2016 10:17:12 PM PST by nutmeg (Get El Chapo to build The Wall)
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To: OneVike

Good thing we don’t have a Vanity Drinking Game.

If we did we would all be in AA by now.


71 posted on 02/14/2016 10:17:16 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Get the CDS and TDS Vaccines before it's too late.)
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To: OneVike
Wouldn't it be nice if everything was black and white? Wouldn't it be nice if we had a conservative candidate who was perfect that stood out over everyone else and had no negatives? I was for Cruz before Cruz even declared, but now I'm not sure he's even eligible to be President and it seems he's a little less than honest in covering his tracks or in campaign tactics. Will I still vote for him if he's the nominee? Sure. I'll vote for anyone over Hillary or Bernie.

If Trump will be the lefty you fear, why isn't he being embraced by the GOP establishment? Obviously they fear they won't be able to control him and keep the status quo.

Yes, some of the things he says makes me wince but I can say that for every single one of them.

What is your biggest issue? Abortion? Ok, I can respect that. I think it's very important, too. How many "pro-life" GOP Presidents have we had since Roe v Wade? Yet, we still have Roe v Wade. Trump does not defend PP's abortion activities. The problem isn't PP, it's ABORTION. It's STILL LEGAL. Should it be de-funded? Absolutely. Is that THE most important issue?

For me personally, I believe the most important issue is securing our literal and figurative borders from illegal immigrants and terrorists.

Answer this question if you will - which of the candidates plans would do the most in that regards?

The role of federal government is supposed to be limited but it is supposed to have ONE MAJOR JOB above all else, and that is our national defense. That obviously starts with having a secure border. I can say it no better than Trump. If we don't have a border, we don't have a country. Nothing else matters. NOTHING.

Unfortunately, it has come to that. I wish it weren't that dire. We have to start putting this country back together again, and that's where it has to start. If you have a house that has no locks on the doors and no windows, and the house is continually ransacked by whoever wants to wander in, you have a major problem. The house needs to be renovated, repaired and cleaned up. What good is doing ANY of that if you don't start by securing the house to keep the invaders, robbers and pillagers out?

Maybe the guy who kicks the asses of the invaders out of your home and installs the locks and windows for you isn't the same guy that you want to pick out and install your wallpaper but where will you hang the wallpaper without any walls?
72 posted on 02/14/2016 10:17:17 PM PST by GLDNGUN
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To: fireman15

+100


73 posted on 02/14/2016 10:18:03 PM PST by BlackFemaleArmyColonel ("God only is my Rock and my Salvation; He is my Defence." (Psa 62:2))
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To: SubMareener

You have it all screwed up - it depends on who those donors are, doesn’t it? Goldman Sachs? Get real. All the politicians are owned by special interest groups - every da**ed one of them.


74 posted on 02/14/2016 10:18:30 PM PST by Catsrus (I callz 'em as I seez 'em)
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To: OneVike

Strange (and scary) days indeed! Some seem to have lost their minds, even contrary to reason she evaluating candidates’ positions. Made worse still now that the SCOTUS and our very Bill of Rights are at stake..


75 posted on 02/14/2016 10:18:40 PM PST by JSDude1
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To: Just mythoughts; OneVike

Good Point, “Just mythoughts”!

Rush Limbaugh is currently on marriage number four and Trump is currently on number three.


76 posted on 02/14/2016 10:18:46 PM PST by dsm69 (Boycott News Media/Hollywood Advertisers)
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To: Catsrus

I don’t need no education on Trump, so don’t bother.

He is a bloviating bum who is the best shyster we have seen in some time, well since Obama in 2008.

Watch the movie if you dare.


77 posted on 02/14/2016 10:18:54 PM PST by Slyfox (Ted Cruz does not need the presidency - the presidency needs Ted Cruz)
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To: fireman15

Yea, well the vast majority demanded to have Barabbas released and demanded Christ be crucified.

I don’t get swayed by crowds, they are often wrong

Sarah Palin has made her bed with the devil. Or do you claim that Sessions, Lee, and King are as bad as you claim Ted is?


78 posted on 02/14/2016 10:19:01 PM PST by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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To: Catsrus

+1000


79 posted on 02/14/2016 10:19:02 PM PST by BlackFemaleArmyColonel ("God only is my Rock and my Salvation; He is my Defence." (Psa 62:2))
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To: OneVike

No, you take it up with God. I know the Bible as well or better than you do. The woman he told to go and sin no more came to him for healing - he healed her, forgave her sins, and told her to go and sin no more. Do you still sin? I bet you do - all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. Got that - ALL! How sad that you think Ted Cruz is the Savior or Messiah - you worship an idol and a false one at that.


80 posted on 02/14/2016 10:20:53 PM PST by Catsrus (I callz 'em as I seez 'em)
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