Posted on 02/14/2016 9:47:13 PM PST by OneVike
I have been a member of FreeRepublic since February 1998, and in all my years I have ever seen so many Freepers support, and defend such a leftist candidate as Donald Trump. In the old days, any candidate that spouted the rhetoric coming out of his mouth would have been received with unanimous hatred from Freepers.
Mitt Romney was met with scorn when he claimed to have changed and was more conservative than his record showed. However, The Donald says the same thing and he is allowed to wear his liberal record as badge of honor, because he has been born again. Never mind that his fruit smells like Skubala. Any Republican candidate in the past who supported partial birth abortion was considered dead on arrival with 99.9% of Freepers. Yet a vast number of Freepers today look at Trump's defense of PP, and attack the candidate who dares to bring it up at a debate.
Thinking I have stumbled in some black hole of Bizzaro World, I decided to spend most the night, after the debate yesterday, researching past posts and comments of many Freepers who support Trump. I must admit that I wasn't too shocked to see that not all, but the vast majority, of his supporters have joined FR within the last 8 years. However I pretty much only searched the opinions of his most ardent supporters.
Interestingly enough, the ones I researched, all demanded that both Houses of Congress go after Planned Parenthood for selling baby parts. Many of them even demanded that the House use their power of the purse to defund PP. Yet these very same individuals defend, and make excuse for Trump's defense of said abortion factory, or at least claim it's bothersome but will still support him. These same individuals, however, were demanding McConnell resign for failing to pass legislation in the senate defunding PP. I did similar searches on their opinions of various other topics that Trump defends which would normally be cause of revulsion from these supporters had it been any other politician.
Well, I must admit that I am rather stunned by the way they have so easily changed their stances.
Who would have known that those who accused Jimmy Carter of never meeting a dictator and communist he didn't like, would now tout that his endorsement of Trump is not Trumps problem, and some even claim it will help him with Democrat voters in November. So we are now to welcome a politician that will get votes from leftists?
I thought the idea was to win them over to conservatism, not to abandon our beliefs just to get them to vote for our guy. So when will Freepers decide we need to change our stances on topics like "Black Lives Matter" to get more blacks to vote for our guy, or maybe we can find a good Muslim candidate who has made billions and talks a good game. Hey, so what if he may support Sharia law, just think of all those Muslim votes we can get from refugees Obama shipped in and we could actually own Dearborn Michigan. There has got to be some great female politicians who support PP that we could get behind, After all, we do have a problem with the female vote, right?
Yea, I'm just an old timer with old time values from the days when The Donald was still giving money to the Clintons and laughing at Republicans for making such a big deal over BJs in the Oval Office. Yup, just a geezer who remembers the wall of separation set up by Jamie Gorelick to keep Clinton from being prosecuted over Witewater which led to the attack on 9/11.
I guess I'm a conspiracy believer who thinks 9/11 was Clinton's fault, not GW's, and that the Weapons of Mass Destruction the NY Times finally admitted existed were originally sold to the public by the Clinton's to help get the Democrats on board for the war on Iraq.
Those were the good old days when we used to rip apart fake politicians for trying too hard to fit into our club, instead of ripping the messengers for noticing a fake when we see one.
Yea, that was before FreeRepublic jumped the Shark.
When Trump wins the Republican nomination will you be convinced than?
It’s more than just Roger Stone. Oh and I love how you immediately discount Roger Stone with no proof. What because you said it, then that makes it so??? LOL! S.M.H.
You didn’t create the Tea Party. You are falling for the Establishment/Gloablist Bull$hit trap hook, line and sinker.
Cruz will be disqualified. You will never see a Cruz as the POTUS.
No one said Trump had anything to do with the Tea Party. I said he was a manifestation because the way the Establishment/Globalist have been behaving.
The bottom line is you are just freaking out because Trump is winning.
Trumped the shark?
We’re judging a group of people to be President. If one of them has a few less sins under their belt, that’s a legitimate reason to pick one over the other. We’re also judging on trustworthiness. If someone has a history of breaking contracts. Not so much that we’re concerned about the person’s morals, but whether or not they’re likely to “re-offend” on their broken promises or flip-flops and screw us over later.
Fair enough. This is the kind of honest disagreement I wish we had more of. And your concerns are valid. On the other hand, I’m satisfied that while his conservative ideology is not as pure as many would like, he’s guided by a pro-American, pro-growth sensibility, common sense and mostly conservative leanings. I think those guiding principles, along with extremely competent management skills on his part will lead to good results more often than not.
What a disgusting bunch of lies about Cruz...not to mention absolutely irrelevant issues to how he’ll perform for us as President.
You’re an absolute fanatic. You spread vicious lies and nonsensical, far-out innuendo about Cruz and try to deny the absolutely proven, damaging facts about Trump. You’re not living in the real world as evidenced by your quickness to hint at conspiracy theories, something as common with the Ron Paulistas as it is with the Trumpsters. You’re a hopeless case.
Excellent point. Unfortunately that’s what you’ll get with “New York values” Trump. Unless he gets word that it is going to help him in the polls, he isn’t even going to be aware which liberal positions of his he should flip-flop on. His default position is the New York big city elite urban liberal position every time.
I think you’re right on that.
I don’t dig in on anyone since I have no say until May.
This election is certainly one for the books, especially since the passing of Scalia.
At this point, it’s really hard to predict what will happen.
After the 2012 Election, I was so disgusted I could care less about politics. I stayed away from Free Republic and other political news sites for a long while. About 6mo before the last mid-term cycle when we had the Government Shutdown and all the pundits were worried about the GOP getting the blame. Right about here I started to become interested again. The Democrats got their clock cleaned; the shutdown did not hurt the GOP one bit.
And now the Republican’s controlled BOTH houses. They can rip the lid off of all the alphabet soup agencies and corruption; they can stop Obama in his tracks! They can go along WITH Obama !?!?!?!?!
This is where it all changed. I knew then that there was no difference between GOP & Democrat. I knew then that “We the People” have been sold down the river. The Establishment controlled Congress have done absolutely nothing to stop Obama and on several occasions went right along with him as if Harry Reid was in charge. All the while pundits on TV and other media, people that I used to respect their opinions were saying this was ok. All is well.
All is not well. I know it and I am sure that millions of other Americans knew it as well.
This time last year my early pick for President was Scott Walker, I did like how he stood up to the Unions and won, repeatedly. But come spring last year, I was not so sure, the GOP it seems has left me behind.
Want to know what got me? Political Correctness – he hates it as much as I do. And immigration, if it were not for Trump, immigration would be so far down on the topic list it would not even be discussed.
Trump is running an asymmetrical campaign, and it is very effective. He has spent next to nothing but is dominating all the polls. He is pulling crowds that dwarf rally attendance of all the other candidates combined. He doesn’t bow to the liberal media, he doesn’t avoid them either, he goes toe to toe with them daily and wins. He has broken rule after rule, standard convention after standard convention. I gave up counting the number of articles predicting the Donald’s demise since early summer.
He is not going anywhere.
Thanks for the well thought out reply. I had gotten sick of the bickering on here after Romney got the nomination and had to really limit my time here.
Trump has turned this primary on its head and (hopefully) saved us from an inevitable Jeb. I also don’t think Cruz would be anywhere near where he is now without Trump kicking down some walls.
I have concerns about both of them, Trumps temperament and Teds issue with NBC, which the Democrats WILL exploit. I also have a hard time seeing just which state that Romney lost that Cruz could pick up. Trump just might be able to put couple of east coast blue states back in play or at least force the Dems to spend money where they thoght they wouldn’t have to.
I wish more of us could stick to advancing their candidates qualities instead of personally tearing each other down.
I also wish we could have a cloned candidate that espoused the best qualities of both Cruz and Trump.
At any rate, it’s gonna be one helluva ride to November.
The idea was, in my understanding, that Jefferson was not impressed upon by priests who hid behind the bible when it suited them, or used the bible to get their way.
Catholic or not, it was the idea of the clergy using the Bible as a way to protect themselves (or the despot) from the law, or scrutiny. Truth can stand by itself, it does not need a bible or scripture or a priest in any case to intervene on it’s behalf.
Donald Trump supporters are simply not willing to look at their candidate: 1) your candidate was out there only last year telling the press in Chicago he supports a path to citizenship for the law breakers, 2) it was only less than three years ago that your candidate was attacking Mitt Romney for his “mean-spirited” approach to illegals that would cost him the Latino vote, 3) it was only less than three years ago that Trump met illegal DREAMer activists admitting he violates Federal Law by employing lots of them in Miami endorsing amnesty, 4) it is no secret that illegal aliens are employed by Trump to build hotels, work in his hotels, and at his golf course in violation of the law, and 5) Trump’s deportation plan is nothing more than an amnesty ruse for millions of law breakers and a rubber stamp citizenship program...it is Kay Bailey Hutchinson’s touchback amnesty that will bring 95% right back into the US as citizens eligible for full welfare benefits.
Furthermore, stop being dishonest about the fact that ThinkProgress and other progressive rags praise Trump for his “progressive values” with respect to the fact that he has stated that he will not reform entitlements and...and his support for universal healthcare coverage otherwise known as the federal government confiscating the entire industry to establish a government monopoly to ration care for over 320 million Americans plus the millions of new “citizens” added through amnesty. You can put lipstick on a pig but its still just a pig. This is not the man to get Americans back in the labor force! Your claim about only as needed is refuted by Eric Trump who says pretty much all of them will be brought right back in without even so much as an English class to become citizens of this country.
The fact is Trump copied Ted Cruz who ran on building a wall as a Senate candidate and pushed for it legislatively while having a very detailed plan outlined as a Presidential candidate. He also wants to require the use of E-Verify, which would hurt Trump’s on illegal hiring practices.
To be clear, Tom Tancredo was much better on the issue and he couldn’t get the support. I want a complete wall on the US-Mexico border and I want US soldiers on the border. There should be absolutely no amnesty for those entering the US illegally and perhaps we need a ban on such individuals ever returning...much less just granting them citizenship because Trump needs cheap lawn care.
I really don’t care what Trump is. What I know he isn’t is a candidate motivated by a failed so called Ideology & Philosophy like Conservatism. It’s Dead and has been.
Trump is a practical problem solver and I believe more inclined to logical solutions rather than Philosophical and/or Ideological. I think those have failed and failed miserably. So taking a chance with Trump will be refreshing regardless.
Yep! Me too.
Would you please post the portion of the Constitution that corresponds to your assertion? Thanks.
You're not the only one.
It is my fear that Cruz is the real deal and Trump is the evil foil to give election to democrats. Certainly hope I’m wrong on that.
Don’t come to me and say Trump is the one man to make illegal immigration an issue! It is an insult to the effort put forward by Tom Tancredo who was far more better on the issue than any candidate we have today but none of you would rally to his cause. For all his faults, are people seriously neglecting Pat Buchanan year after year raised the issue? You need to acknowledge that Donald Trump attacked Mitt Romney from the Left barking about how it hurts the Latino vote and told DREAMer activists he hires a lot of illegals in Miami. You talk about the problem of government not enforcing the law, agree but you give the second group of businessmen like Trump a pass for using the cheap labor and like other billionaires they want their illegal workforce so they can have cheap lawn care among other things. And you cannnot blame it on the subcontractor when you’re the one hiring them. I’m with you on illegal immigration but please don’t tell me Trump is the savior with his touchback amnesty scheme. Immigration has been a huge issue for me when Trump was still registered as a Democrat and although welcoming if some of his statements I am convinced he’s not my candidate on that issue or abortion, homosexual marriage, protecting the second amendment, repealing Obamacare, reforming entitlements, or many other issues. We will just have to disagree here.
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