Free Republic 2016 Caucus Open Discussion Thread XXIV

Free Republic ^ | 11 February 2016 | Windflier

[Windflier]

DO NOT VOTE ON THIS THREAD.

This is the nightly DISCUSSION thread for the ongoing 2016 Free Republic Caucus. Per caucus rules, no comments are allowed on the caucus thread itself - hence this open chat thread.

If you'd like to vote in the caucus, please look in the sidebar for the link, or check downthread here.

Thanks, and let 'er rip!

Windy

[DoughtyOne]

After 1.5 hours tonight, 92 people have voted.

[digger48]

I’m still “undecided”.

Last summer, I had the fantasy that it would be Trump/Cruz, with The Donald stepping down in 2-3 (or 6-7) years and opening the door for 10 more years of Ted.

[nopardons]

Yes, I know, but as you said...they are VERY vocal on threads. Paid operatives?

Many non-voters ARE going to be voting this year, though. :-)

[nopardons]

No president "steps down" after 2 or 3, nor 7 years! That's a very strange thing to say.

Cruz is NOT eligible to be VEEP, because he isn't eligible to be president! neither is Rubio!

And even IF Ted was eligible, many who once would have liked to haves that ticket, would now HATE it and probably NOT vote....even though they are VERY staunch Trump supporters.

And the thing is, the vast majority of Cruz supporters, here, have said that they will NEVER vote for Trump...NO MATTER WHAT.

It might help you to decide, if you take two pieces of paper, fold each in 1/2, write Trump on one and Cruz oh the other. Then, on one side put PRO and CON on the other of each sheet. Then write what you like and don't like re each man's positions on the papers. But PLEASE pay attention to both and what each says and does now.

[digger48]

Back then, I figured Trump would get bored of it. Like everybody thought he would of the campaign.

I wasn’t alone in not realizing Trump was in this for the long haul. I’m tickled pink he is.

I’m not gonna touch the NBC thing, if it’s all the same to you.

[nopardons]

That's okay....you don't have to; however, if you have missed my posts about it and want to know what our government has to say on the subject, just FRmail me. If you don't want to know....that's okay too.

Oh I knew, KNEW FROM THE BEGINNING, that Trump was in this to win it. :-)

[Java4Jay]

I wouldn’t put much stock in your daily caucus threads. People have avoided FR by the dozens as a result of the abuse and disrespect they’ve received because they’re Cruz supporters.

I’m one of those Cruz supporters. Your statement is sadly true.

[Java4Jay]

“I’m here every day, and I really honestly see more insulting going from Cruz supporters to Trump supporters. I’ve seen both but far meaner and greater quantity from the Cruz supporters.”

I see just the opposite by a large margin.

[Nacho Bidnith]

Maybe JimRob would be so kind as to weigh in on the topic and let us know how many Trump supporters have been banned or suspended as opposed to Cruz supporters.

I think you’re only seeing what you want to see.

[ru4liberty]

I don't know how many Cruz descriptors there are. I have better things to do than count them. However, I'm very hurt that you didn't include my descriptor (Trump Toadies) in your list.

BTW, contrary to your assertion, it actually IS debatable. That's why we're debating.

One last question: Are you conservative? If not, my questions and remarks are moot and there would be no need for you to respond to them. Being on FR, I naturally assume I'm speaking conservative to conservative. If you're not, never mind.

[ru4liberty]

NO Trump supporter/s, that I know of, have sent filth or HATE FRMAIL to Cruz supporters. The same can NOT be said of the reverse situation.

This is a very curious thing. To know such a thing, you'd have to have some inside information. Or a certain clearance to be able to view people's FReepmails. In addition, you'd have to know about the individual posts as well as all the threads that have been pulled for such infractions. Surely you're not claiming you have those privileges, are you?

If you do, please find and read the abusive FReepmails that I've received been bombarded with. Also, see if you can find my posts that were pulled because I put up an anti-Trump graphic (see below). See if there are equally as many anti-Cruz graphics that have been pulled.

The operative phrase in your post is "that I know of." You need to be cautious when you make assertions about things you only think you know.

[ru4liberty]

Posts #50 and #51

[DoughtyOne]

Just a few of the more charming Cruz supporter’s comments:

Ladies, enter at your own risk.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3377737/posts?page=116#116
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3384154/posts?page=25#25
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3371618/posts?page=49#49
> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3371618/posts?page=61#61
> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3371618/posts?page=97#97
> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3371618/posts?page=104#104
> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3371618/posts?page=177#177
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3366371/posts?page=272#272
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3366836/posts?page=69#69
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3322225/posts?page=126#126
> References his use of the term “Trump should be fraged” and apologize for using the term in post 125 claiming he didn’t know what it meant. Used the term in post 97 five months earllier, when I told him for the first time what it meant.
> He had both of his posts deleted.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3382411/posts?page=37#37
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3366371/posts?page=3#3
> Posts these same lies for four or five month running, claims he has no responsibility for posting it even after numerous FReepers point to the falsehoods
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3366612/posts?page=5#5
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3366371/posts?page=223#223
> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3366371/posts?page=224#224

I sure am glad to see that Cruz has the Evangelical Christian vote.

[ru4liberty]

You have a lot of time on your hands, don’t you. I’m still not going to participate in your caucus threads.

You should be thankful that I won’t take the time to share the texts and emails of the FReepers you and your buddies have run off, either directly or indirectly (by watching others being savaged by Trumpalumps).

[DoughtyOne]

Well Tiger, that’s only what your Evangelical Cruz supporters deems necessary to post in public.

You guys really don’t have much commen sense do you.

One of your more disturbed folks got very frustrated when I tried to cut off debate without arguing, telling me he wished he was with me in person so he could physically take out his frustration on someone not bowing on bended knee.

I still refused to argue saying good-night, so he proceeded to send me more notes telling me I was lying and all manner of what sounded to me like psychotic behavior.

He wrote me more notes in one saying he heped I’d run across a freeway and get killed in my sleep.

I’m sure you have much worse than that.

Anal sex, comparing us to Hitler’s followers, homosexual insults, threats of violence, wishes of death...

Yeah, you folks have had it so bad.

And you still can’t figure out why we think you have a screw loose for not realizing debate on topics is different than this.

[catfish1957]

Seems every post you make has you becoming unhinged. No one takes you seriously anymore.

[DoughtyOne]

I got tired of the insults, and one day when some of the worst of them popped up, I decided to document them.

Your reaction wasn’t to say those things were awful.

Your reaction was to try and put me down for taking the time to document what your team has been up to.

You folks demonstrate no comprehension of morals.

[Windflier]

There’s not much point in continuing the conversation we’ve started. You’re fixed in your point of view, as am I.

I began this by merely disagreeing with you about the level of vitriol between the Trump and Cruz camps, but you chose to respond with dismissal and a personal attack on my conservatism.

I’m not interested in returning fire, so I’ll just end here. Have a good evening.

[ru4liberty]

I don’t take responsibility for anyone but me. The only reason I posted to you on this thread is because I became aware of you because you attacked me on a thread a while back. IIRC, the thread got pulled, but that was my first awareness of you. Also, you’re hard to overlook since you tend to spam threads. When I noticed that you were the same person who starts the caucus threads, I took the opportunity of Windflier’s discussion thread to tell you why you’re not likely to get an accurate count.

[DoughtyOne]

Okay, so I’m a terrible guy and I’m running a Caucus to make the Cruz folks look bad.

Anything else?