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Need some AR advice.
BTLD | 1/26/16 | BTLD

Posted on 01/26/2016 6:15:16 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo

I have been given first shot at a Primary Weapons Systems PWS MK114 rifle in .223 Wylde.

I've always wanted something like this but know nothing about them.

Good, bad or otherwise, please share your vast and valuable knowledge.

Thank you all, in advance.


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To: Georgia Girl 2

negative on that.


41 posted on 01/26/2016 7:25:39 PM PST by RC one ("...all persons born in the allegiance of the United States are natural-born citizens" US v. WKA)
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To: smokingfrog

“If you have a Rock River, it probably has a Wylde chamber”

Nope. Stamped 5.56 NATO right on it.

L


42 posted on 01/26/2016 7:33:09 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Lurker

RR sells many models with a Wylde chamber. They’ve been doing it for a long time and I’ve never heard any complaints about them.


43 posted on 01/26/2016 8:05:14 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

.223 Wylde is a chamber design (actually, a chamber reamer design), not a cartridge.

First came the .223 Remington. When DoD ‘militarized’ it as 5.56 NATO, they made the chamber tolerances sloppier and gave it a longer throat to keep it chugging under less than ideal operating conditions, but at the expense of some accuracy. And they also rated it to a higher max chamber pressure.

Competition shooters favor longer, high-ogive, higher-BC bullets for match competition. Once manufacturers started producing 70+ grain .224 bullets, competition shooters found they were having to seat the bullets so deep in the .223 Rem’c case to keep their overall length short enough to feed that the bullet’s base was intruding too far into the casing, leaving them too little room for the charge weight they wanted to use. So Bill Wylde made a hybrid chamber that merged the .223’s tighter tolerances with the 5.56’s longer throat and higher chamber pressure.

So a .223 Wylde chamber will run perfectly fine on either .223 Rem or 5.56 NATO ammo. I prefer the Wylde over any other chamber design, except maybe the Noveske reamer.

PWS builds as good an OpRod upper as anyone. Most OpRod ARs use the short stroke design, which is a poor imitation of Kalashikov’s operating system, which is the gold standard, and for good reason. PWS uses a long-stroke piston, just like the real McCoy ...I mean Mikhail, not to be confused with their short-stroke competitors.

For that price you also get an adjustable gas block, which will help if you want to shoot subsonics, or run a suppressor. But OpRod guns are less fussy about these variations (compared to DI) to start with.

My biggest quibble with it is that it needs a better trigger, even at $1500. But for that, you’re only a Geissele away from EBR nirvana.


44 posted on 01/26/2016 9:19:09 PM PST by Paal Gulli
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To: Georgia Girl 2

No problem searches for ammo at all.... again, standard surplus & OTC commercial brands from your local gun shops are fine for the 223 Wylde “CHAMBER”.


45 posted on 01/26/2016 10:12:02 PM PST by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
The Windham is a beautiful rifle. When I wanted one, they were impossible to find (spoke to the Windham factory by phone -- great people).

I ended up with a Ruger that cost me a fortune. I like the Ruger but it is also heavier than the Windham.

46 posted on 01/27/2016 2:40:33 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Long is the way and hard, that out of Hell leads up to light - John Milton, Paradise Lost)
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To: smokingfrog

I’ve seen them and heard the same. Mine just happens to have the 5.56 chamber. It works very well.

Best,

L


47 posted on 01/27/2016 4:12:14 AM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Paal Gulli

Thank you. You’ve answered all of my questions.


48 posted on 01/27/2016 4:54:35 AM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (Get Ready)
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To: RoosterRedux

Mr. GG2 traded his Bushmaster match grade heavy barrel in on the Wyndham and he never looked back. It is lighter.

Smith and Wesson has a new AR 15 sport out that I was looking at recently at our gun shop. $599. I am seriously thinking of trading out of my Bulgarian AK74 for one. Its very lightweight and the product reviews are excellent.


49 posted on 01/27/2016 8:10:35 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

The price of that Smith & Wesson is really good. And as to Windham, I have thought many times of adding a Windham to my tiny collection, but have never been able to let the cash slip from my greedy paws.;-)


50 posted on 01/27/2016 11:07:54 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Long is the way and hard, that out of Hell leads up to light - John Milton, Paradise Lost)
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To: RoosterRedux

The S&W does not have a forward assist or a dust cover but I watched a video of somebody running it through a pond and across sand and it never jammed once.


51 posted on 01/27/2016 11:38:05 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

It is a shame DPMS picked up and left the state.


52 posted on 01/27/2016 2:21:21 PM PST by Sawdring
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To: Georgia Girl 2
The S&W does not have a forward assist or a dust cover...

Unless you are regularly in combat, not sure that's a big deal. I have never actually used the forward assist.

53 posted on 01/27/2016 2:22:21 PM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
I've always wanted something like this but know nothing about them.

Huh?

54 posted on 01/27/2016 2:43:01 PM PST by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: MileHi

My take from the videos and reviews is that you are right its not an issue.


55 posted on 01/27/2016 2:45:08 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: gundog
Huh?


Wut?
56 posted on 01/27/2016 7:38:08 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (Get Ready)
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