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NFL Week 14 Live Thread [Did I tell ya my Boys WON?]
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Posted on 12/08/2015 4:55:41 AM PST by Bender2

WEEK 14

Dec. 10

Minnesota Vikings at Arizona Cardinals 8:25

Dec. 13

Atlanta Falcons at Carolina Panthers 1

Washington Redskins at Chicago Bears 1

Pittsburgh Steelers at Cincinnati Bengals 1

San Francisco 49ers at Cleveland Browns 1

Seattle Seahawks at Baltimore Ravens 1

Indianapolis Colts at Jacksonville Jaguars 1

San Diego Chargers at Kansas City Chiefs 1

Tennessee Titans at New York Jets 1

Buffalo Bills at Philadelphia Eagles 1

Detroit Lions at St. Louis Rams 1

New Orleans Saints at Tampa Bay Buccaneers 1

Oakland Raiders at Denver Broncos 4:05

Dallas Cowboys at Green Bay Packers 4:25

New England Patriots at Houston Texans 8:30

Dec. 14

New York Giants at Miami Dolphins 8:30


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NFC tiebreaker grid is a work in progress. Some need to be completed, as you can see.

NFC East is primarily about DIV record.

Washington Redskins 2-2
Philadelphia Eagles 2-2
New York Giants 2-3
Dallas Cowboys 3-2

Redskins and Eagles meet on 12/26


61 posted on 12/12/2015 2:42:13 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT (https://www.facebook.com/NHforTedCruz)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

Nice work on the tiebreaker stuff.


62 posted on 12/12/2015 3:52:03 PM PST by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: Bender2; big'ol_freeper

Navy pulls it out. Army had too many turnovers.

Why is it that Navy and Air Force can have winning programs and Army has had only 1 winning season since 1996? All 3 academies share the same general requirements, right? Is Army at some greater disadvantage?


63 posted on 12/12/2015 4:04:30 PM PST by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: Impy; big'ol_freeper; SevenofNine; Cletus.D.Yokel; Rummyfan; Liberty Valance; Perdogg; ...
WEEK 14 RESULTS & PICKS SO FAR

Dec 12

.........ARMY Vs NAVY............

Dec. 10

...Minnesota Vikings at Arizona Cardinals.....................

Dec. 13

...Atlanta Falcons at Carolina Panthers..................

...Washington Redskins at Chicago Bears..................

...Pittsburgh Steelers at Cincinnati Bengals..................

............San Francisco 49ers at Cleveland Browns............

........................Seattle Seahawks at Baltimore Ravens

............Indianapolis Colts at Jacksonville Jaguars.........

...San Diego Chargers at Kansas City Chiefs.....................

Tennessee Titans at New York Jets.....................

.........Buffalo Bills at Philadelphia Eagles............

.....................Detroit Lions at St. Louis Rams...

...New Orleans Saints at Tampa Bay Buccaneers..................

Oakland Raiders at Denver Broncos........................

......Dallas Cowboys at Green Bay Packers..................

...............New England Patriots at Houston Texans......

Dec. 14

............New York Giants at Miami Dolphins.........


64 posted on 12/12/2015 4:55:26 PM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Bender2

Yeah Navy almost scare me on that game LOL!


65 posted on 12/12/2015 5:03:47 PM PST by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: Impy

internet traffic is just flocking here to read tiebreaker minutia.

I’ve refrained from digging into the Bears situation. if I delay for 24 hours, it won’t matter!

11-game jamboree at NOON!
2 games are meaningless ... I hope you have the NFL ticket for the other NINE. It’s more interesting than the Super Bowl.


66 posted on 12/12/2015 5:15:50 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT (https://www.facebook.com/NHforTedCruz)
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To: Impy

That is easy. Air Force and Navy, with huge budgets compared to Army, recruit a number of athletes who don’t necessarily have military aptitude. When commissioned they can hide them so they don’t harm the service. I mean the Navy is frankly a taxi service and the Air Force they just put them in logistics.

The Army does not recruit athletes. They evaluate military aptitude and accept those applicants. If the Army would recruit athletes without military aptitude soldiers would die because the military decision-making within the Army is much closer to the troops. The Army can’t afford to do that.

Some would argue that the Marine Corps is the same, but count the number of those who go to the Marines from the Naval Academy football program. Few.

Frankly that pisses me off to no end about the AF and Navy. Taxpayers paying for folks that have little military utility. I’m talking general because that is not across the board. The other thing that is pissing me off to no end is the wasteful purchasing of special uniforms for the Army Navy game. WTF...I’m paying for that crap.

In all of the above, we have lost our F-ing direction. The purpose of the Army (and Marine Corps) is to close with and destroy the enemy. The purpose of the Navy is to...well taxi shit around the world, keep trade lanes open and occasionally launch some jets and cruise missiles in support of ground operations. The purpose of the Air Force is to appear like a military service. (I jest)

The purpose of the military academies are to produce military officers, not athletes, to accomplish the above.

The AF and Navy are wasting taxpayer dollars. PERIOD.


67 posted on 12/12/2015 5:22:36 PM PST by big'ol_freeper (Ná tabhair shilíní le muca nó comhairle do amadáin)
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To: Impy

BEARS:

uncommon
Bears 0-0-2
Vikes 1-0-1
Pack 0-1-1

GB has clinched tiebreaker vs CHI due to common games. ( GB-4 )

at 9-7, CHI can get the tiebreaker over MINN if MN has 9th victory over NYG (not division and not common). It would be chi-5 (SOV lead).

if 9th victory for MN is division game vs GB, then MN has tiebreaker over CHI. MINN-2
CHI can get it at 8-8 tie with MINN, also.


68 posted on 12/12/2015 6:30:36 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT (https://www.facebook.com/NHforTedCruz)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

The Bears need an inside straight and the intercession of baby Jesus.


69 posted on 12/12/2015 6:52:43 PM PST by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: big'ol_freeper

Thanks for the 411. I did not know of the difference in athletic budgets and recruiting.


70 posted on 12/12/2015 6:55:58 PM PST by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: Impy

BEARS VS ATL

COMMON
MN TB WA SF
ATL IS 1-4
CHI IS 0-2-3
(chi wins common at 8-8 or better)

IF atl LOSES to JAX on 12/20 (non-conf loss), they clinch tiebreaker vs CHI (ATL-3) ... conf record
ELSE it is CHI-4


71 posted on 12/12/2015 6:58:58 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT (https://www.facebook.com/NHforTedCruz)
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To: Impy; big'ol_freeper; SevenofNine; Cletus.D.Yokel; Rummyfan; Liberty Valance; Perdogg; ...
The front-runner took home the Heisman hardware Saturday as Alabama's Derrick Henry became the first RB to win the Heisman since 2009.

That said, the Heisman has become more of jinx than a hallmark of future greatness in the NFL. Most winners have been full blown failures.

So, let us give a cheer for the Heisman winners that did make a mark in the NFL. Here, IMHO, are the top 10 NFL players who have a Heisman:

#10 Alan Ameche - 1954 Heisman Trophy winner (University of Wisconsin–Madison) -- Best remembered for scoring the winning touchdown for the Colts on a one-yard run in overtime as the Colts beat the Giants, 23-17 in "The Greatest Game Ever Played." It was his second touchdown of the day as he also scored a TD on a 2 yard run in the second quarter. He is one of only five players named to the National Football League 1950s All-Decade Team not elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

#9 Billy Cannon - 1959 Heisman Trophy winner (LSU) -- One of only 20 players who played the entire ten years of the American Football League's existence. He is also one of 14 players to score 5+ touchdowns in one game. Cannon, at halfback, scored an 88-yard touchdown on a pass from George Blanda in the first AFL Championship game, a 24-16 victory over the Los Angeles Chargers. He scored the only touchdown in the Oilers’ repeat victory over the San Diego Chargers in the second-ever AFL Championship game. Went to the Oakland Raiders in 1964. Al Davis converted him to tight end during the 1964 season and he finished his career as one of the best players of all time at that position, playing for the Raiders in Super Bowl II in 1967.

#8 Tim Brown - 1987 Heisman Trophy winner (Notre Dame) -- Brown was a member of the Oakland Raiders team that advanced to Super Bowl XXXVII, as well as a nine-time Pro Bowl selection. Brown was inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 2015.

#7 Tony Dorsett - 1976 Heisman Trophy winner (Pittsburgh) -- Dorsett was a four-time Pro Bowl selection. He was a member of two Dallas Cowboys teams that advanced to the Super Bowl and one that won the Lombardi Trophy following the 1977 season. Dorsett is a 1994 inductee into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

#6 Earl Campbell - 1977 Heisman Trophy winner (Texas) -- Campbell was a five-time Pro Bowl selection and a three-time NFL rushing yardage leader. Campbell is a 1991 inductee into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

#5 Doak Walker - 1948 Heisman Trophy winner (SMU) -- played with the Detroit Lions for six seasons, winning 2 NFL Championships (1952, 1953). He was inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame in 1959 and the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1986. The Doak Walker Award, awarded annually since 1990 to the top running back in college football, is named after him.

#4 Paul Hornung - 1956 Heisman Trophy winner (Notre Dame) -- Hornung was a member of four championship teams (1961, 1962, 1965 and 1966) in Green Bay. He was a two-time Pro Bowl selection and two-time NFL Player of the Year and posted a then-NFL record 176 points during the 1960 season. Hornung is a 1986 inductee into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

#3 Barry Sanders - 1988 Heisman Trophy winner (Oklahoma State) -- Sanders was a 10-time Pro Bowl selection and a four-time NFL rushing yardage leader. He gained 2,053 yards in 1997, when he had a record 14 consecutive 100-yard games. Sanders is a 2004 inductee into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

#2 Jim Plunkett - 1970 Heisman Trophy winner (Stanford) -- He led the Raiders to two Super Bowl victories (XV and XVIII). He is the only eligible quarterback to start (and win) two Super Bowls without being inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in Canton, Ohio.

#1 Roger Staubach - 1963 Heisman Trophy winner (Navy) -- Staubach was a six-time Pro Bowl selection. He led the Dallas Cowboys to four Super Bowls, winning Super Bowl VI and Super Bowl XII (earning game MVP honors in Super Bowl VI). Staubach is a 1985 inductee into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

If you are wondering why I did not mention the 1968 Heisman Trophy winner from USC... then keep on wondering--

72 posted on 12/13/2015 2:33:18 AM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: big'ol_freeper
BTW big, to give you a little relief after yesterday's Army/Navy Game... West Point has 3 Heisman winners (Doc Blanchard 1945, Glenn Davis 1946 & Pete Dawkins 1958) while the Annapolis has only two (Joe Bellino 1960 & Roger Staubach 1963).
73 posted on 12/13/2015 2:47:40 AM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Heisman_Trophy_winners:

This is a list of the colleges and universities who have had a player win a Heisman trophy: Ohio State and Notre Dame are tied for the most trophies at 7 each (USC’s 7th having been vacated). Ohio State has the distinction of the only two time winner, Archie Griffin, leaving their total players to have won the trophy at six. In total, players from 39 different schools have won a Heisman Trophy, while 18 schools have more than one trophy.

Ohio State 7
Notre Dame 7
USC 6
Oklahoma 5
Army 3
Auburn 3
Florida 3
Florida State 3
Michigan 3
Nebraska 3
Alabama 2
Georgia 2
Miami 2
Navy 2
Texas 2
Texas A&M 2
Wisconsin 2
Yale 2
Baylor 1
BYU 1
Boston College 1
Colorado 1
Chicago 1
Houston 1
Iowa 1
LSU 1
Minnesota 1
Oklahoma State 1
Oregon 1
Oregon State 1
Penn State 1
Pittsburgh 1
Princeton 1
South Carolina 1
SMU 1
Stanford 1
Syracuse 1
TCU 1
UCLA 1

74 posted on 12/13/2015 2:52:47 AM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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I would add Herschel Walker - don’t think he was ever utilized properly in the NFL, but having seen him run around, through, and over defenses in college, he was truly one of the best backs ever. And Eddie George, who was the workhorse of the Titans offense (more key than Steve McNair in those seasons). He had 400 carries for several seasons in a row, staying healthy despite that incredible workload.


75 posted on 12/13/2015 3:25:36 AM PST by Rummyfan (Let us now try liberty)
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To: Bender2
Well Bend, welcome to Titletown Beers on me..

But at 1530 hours It's war!!

76 posted on 12/13/2015 5:29:04 AM PST by big'ol_freeper (Ná tabhair shilíní le muca nó comhairle do amadáin)
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Nice list Bender. Full agreement, except I’d have Plunkett lower, and Campbell higher. In his prime, I don’t think I ever saw a more dominant RB.


77 posted on 12/13/2015 5:44:06 AM PST by catfish1957 (I display the Confederate Battle Flag with pride in honor of my brave ancestors who fought w/ valor)
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To: Bender2

When Roger Staubach was coming out of high school, there were only two colleges interested in him - Purdue and Navy. Asked later in life how things would have been different if he - Staubach - had gone to Purdue, he replied ‘You would have never heard of Bob Griese.’


78 posted on 12/13/2015 7:08:47 AM PST by Rummyfan (Let us now try liberty)
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To: big'ol_freeper
Re: ...at 1530 hours... It's war!!

It sure... is--

But afterwards... move your feet or get me another Duff!

79 posted on 12/13/2015 8:54:59 AM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Bender2

Yeah I have Bender it was one future Lady Killer and White Bronco fleeter ORENTHAL Simpson


80 posted on 12/13/2015 8:57:06 AM PST by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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