Posted on 12/07/2015 4:15:58 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
What Donald Trump is doing in the Republican presidential primary is increasingly being called a "movement," both by Trump himself and by conservative commentators, whether they like where he's trying to take the GOP or not. However, according to one long-time student of political movements and leadership, the Trump "movement" may not be worthy of the name.
And the criticism isn’t coming from some leftist ideologue who instinctively backs away from Trump because he is energizing elements of the far right. It's coming from former eight-term Oklahoma Congressman Mickey Edwards, a founding trustee of the conservative Heritage Foundation and former national chairman of the American Conservative Union.
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2015/12/07/Trump-Leading-Genuine-Political-Movement
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Establishment Republicans are comfortable thinking this. But it is just not true. Trump is saying at least 4 things that are very different from what Jeb and Marco are saying and/or what voters believe they would really follow through on if elected: 1) secure the border; 2) stop entering into harmful trade agreements; 3) drop the overly interventionist democracy-building foreign policy; and 4) go after terrorists without limiting ourselves by political correctness. As much as the GOPe will not admit it, these are real ideas, not just primal screams.
>>They’re terrified of the new N-Word: NATIONALISM!
The enemy of the Transnational Progressive is the Nationalist. Nationalists say “I don’t want to live like those people.” Progressives believe that the “common folk” everywhere should all live in poverty, walk to work, and stand in line for food.
You have a point. I often write then do not hit the post button. The Macy’s point is well taken though, if true that he played a role in their failures and is bragging about it.
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No problem. Just making an observation.
Thanks for your posts. Really.
HERE IS A FORMAT FR MEMBERS BELONGING TO A TEA PARTY GROUP COULD SUGGEST TO THEIR RESPECTIVE TP GROUP
IT USES THE QUESTIONAIRE CAMPAIGN TACTIC THAT BRINGS OUT THE ISSUES THE MEDIA WILL NOT TOUCH
WHICH TEA PARTIERS COULD SEND OUT DURING THEIR FUND RAISING EFFORTS TO DEFEAT THESE GUYS
We are tired of bills are not being read and billion$ and trillion$ of dollars in legislation called omnibus bills get passed. Fundings then get shoveled into agencies with the results being government intrusion as well as its employees that grow into our lives regulating US how we; eat, sleep, pray, get married , and think
Should your Senator or congressman have voted NO on any such 1000 page or more Omnibus funding bills of extended duration beyond 60 days if congress did not do its job and consider (read) what it is passing? (Yes) or (NO) ? If they voted no and the socialists and the MSM will scream government shutdown.
Would you still support them? (Y) (N) (Maybe). Should Obama care be (fixed) or (dumped) And if either votes to fix and not dump it will you support them for another term (YES) or (NO)
Should your group make this an issue in this campaign.YES NO
IRS EPA. INS..These agencys are out of control INS....
The people who head these agencies get approved by the senate and swear an oath to support the constitution not the executive branch or the president.
Should your congress member support hearings Investigating their funding and operation (Y)(N)
If such officers are found guilty of abusing or exceeding their legislative authorization .
Should they support their encircle which ( censure) (impeachment) (defunding)...If they refuses to do so will you still support them in 2016 ? YES NO
EPA Own waterfront property? You cant clear your waterfront jungle. Federalized property collecting water during a rainstorm and Pay more for the b/s in your gas & idiot lites in your car. Watch what you flush because higher electric bills will save the world and the bankrupt campaign contributers in the solar industry. Ordered modifications on gasoline and diesel engines which greatly increased their cost with regulations that yielded questionable results.
It is time to reign in EPA Funding? (Y)(N)
INS...Amnesty.. Forget about Ebola
We do not allow cattle to enter without a background health and ancestry check. Which we also reqiure of legal immigrants who wait years and still go thru health and record checks. We also require that any legal immingrant demonstrate prior to entry that they offer a contribution to our society and not dependency upon it .
Yet we are letting children and gang bangers in without doing any of this which has resulted in dispersing virulent new diseases (measles) and drug use which has resulted in unreported cases in schools where these illegal kids were placed.. Plus shoved a severe financial strain on local governments where they are placed .
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Should those given this bypassed favored treatment who miss their INS hearing be deported fortwith ? (Y) (N).. Should that apply to convicted felons ? (Y) (N) Denied re-entry (Y)(N) ?
Should any candidate for Attorney General supporting the regimes open borders policy including sanctuary cities be denied confirmation ?(Yes) (No) .
Should the senate have rejected any such candidate to be Attorney General by voting if needed setting aside the 60 vote majority and applying the simple majority Reid rule citing the Hanen court injunction ruling that would restrict the use of the Reid rule to use only when such a ruling by the court is made ? (Yes) (No)
There is no such race as a quote,hispanic,unquote. In spanish speaking counties countries such as Mexico which claims areas of the United States. Where an American citizen decides to be a legal retiree never mind being a seasonal visitor still are denied voting privledges. Own land in their own name. Face steep fines before getting kicked out .Let alone denied income and energy subsistance including food stamps, or bring in family members .
Should we deny such full citizen privledges to any (emigree) (seasonal vistor) (illegal) if their country does not allow those same privledges we are presently offering illegals to any citizen of the United States living in that country. Yes No
Would you continue to support a Congress member who refuses to support such reciprocal restrictions ? And by doing so believes the United States should support open border one world socialism ? (Y) (N)
Would that also include erecting border barriers such as fencing designed to discourage surrepticious or uncontolled entry ? (Yes) (No)
Should any American citizen which goes overseas to join a foreign entity fighting against the United States (such as ISIS) Be denied re-entry (Y)(N) and their citizenship revoked? (Y) (N) Should that person be charged with treason Y N
The point is that the author said the left hasn’t done that. When in fact they have led or tried to boycotts of advertisers on talk radio, and any product associated with a conservative.
It wasn’t Trump doing the boycott of Macy’s but simply people not shopping there. At least that is how I remember the situation. He was gloating about it not orchestrating it.
Yeah, his gloating was ugly but you can’t be nice with liberals. The truth hurts. I am glad Trump hurt them with it. It is time and past time that liberals were out Alinskyed. A liberal would have lied to achieve the same result.
I have been consistent since long before Trump started running that conservatives need, at times to fight like the left. They will never stop until they are unable to continue. I want them to suffer. The more the suffer the better.
Another inside the beltway collaborationist overpaid "not for profit" NGO "educational" organization funded by wealthy corporate interests to extort funds from the taxpayers for their interests.
And .. Trump is not “trying” to take the conservative movement anywhere.
He’s actually galvanizing a ticked off public.
We’re ticked off because we don’t see the people we elected DOING WHAT THEY SAID THEY WOULD DO.
THIS HAS TO STOP. AMERICA IS IN REAL TROUBLE .. AND THESE PAMPERED AND POWERED LIBERALS DON’T DO ANYTHING BUT CREATE HAVOC ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
AND .. WHAT DOES THE RIGHT DO .. THEY GO ALONG .. BECAUSE KEEPING THEIR PRECIOUS CHAIRMANSHIPS IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN MAKING THE COUNTRY GREAT; LEADING IN THE WORLD; ETC.
WE ARE JUST PLAIN OLD FED UP.
I didn't get that at all from the article. I read it real quickly admittedly, but I don't think that was his point at all.
> “Mickey Edwards, a founding trustee of the conservative Heritage Foundation and former national chairman of the American Conservative Union.”
A genealogy expert advises that genealogy should never be performed on persons from Oklahoma as they are all almost always found to be of lineages of demented characters.
The HF and ACU likely took pity on this one token of dementia.
You see, when they get to define the terms, "it is not a REAL statement of a goal" in the minds of the gope.
If REAL AMERICANS WANT TO 'MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN', THAT IS A REAL GOAL.
We can debate what we mean by great, but that is a real statement of a real goal.
With this crew, we probably have to debate what we mean by America.
> “Mickey Edwards, a founding trustee of the conservative Heritage Foundation and former national chairman of the American Conservative Union.”
A genealogy expert advises that genealogy should never be performed on persons from Oklahoma as they are all almost always found to be of lineages of demented characters.
The HF and ACU likely took pity on this one token of dementia.
I read the article again, and you mis interpreted what the author meant when he referred to the left.
BUT, I do agree that there is some satisfaction to be had when a company is punished for its leftist agenda. But I have two main problems with it: A: he is going after them because they went after HIM, not because they went after pro lifers or pro marriage or pro free market groups. That’s a YUUUUGE difference. And B: ironic that this is celebrated by a poster who is all about jobs jobs jobs.....
Going Alinsky is fine, but do it for “us” - not for “DT.”
voters gave the republicans a majority in the house and senate for a reason - stop progressiveness. the republicans are playing business as usual, and people are feeling betrayed.
trump will win on two issues - illegal immigration and the second amendment.
the republican elites ignore this simple fact at their own peril.
“Edwards, who now directs the Rodel Fellowship in Public Leadership program at the Aspen Institute in Washington....”
Tough said
What a loaded piece of propaganda this article is.
0bama has been leading a movement since 2007, one designed to destroy whatever was left of traditional America. I guess you could call it the Bowel Movement.
salute!
Trump is leading a Patriot’s Movement to take back our country and to make America Great Again.
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