Sounds unlikely, unless it was just “given” to them... for whatever reason...
Then again, with our military now being an engine for social change rather than an organization for the actual defense of America, can we afford to be so smug?
After reading the article, the big question is how did they record the US boat’s powerplant noises so they would know what to look for? Sounds to me like the LA class was giving off exaggerated noise, and gave that noise to the Indians, as a tracking exercise.
LA class is from the early 70s. It is why we have been replacing them with the Virginia Class for years. Over a third of those have already been retired.
I know zero about boats, but I know a lot about war games.
It’s all about the rules and the missions.
You can set up scenarios where F4s wing against F22s.
Sometimes this is about learning. Often it is about making a less powerful country feel good about itself.
Possible, but they’re just-make believe, political, ally friendly war exercises. In a real time situation, let’s see this happen which I doubt. This like having a 1998 Honda Civic beating a porsche 911 carrera GT lol
Sorry folks, but a diesel on its battery is very quiet and very dangerous. That is why we need anti-submarine warfare aircraft. This is not unexpected.
Wait a minute I need to check with DOD. I am on hold with DOD support staff menber Rajeesh right now.
The military has been known to tank these exercises around budget time. During Cope India a few years back our F-15’s appeared to get schwacked by IAF Sukhois. ThE USAF brass was at the time trying to persuade Congress that we shouldn’t cut the F22 production line. We lost. Congress cut the budget anyway.
India is very formidable in the air & on the water.
This was an exercise for training and coordination with a friendly power, and it is entirely dependent on the parameters of this exercise for those purposes. It does not reflect the outcome of an engagement of similar boats in a real world combat scenario.
“Kill” = got within range to launch a torpedo. That’s different from a kill.
No way squinty-eyed little yellow men flying toy planes could TOUCH one of our mighty battleships. No way a bunch of illiterate goat humpers could bomb New York City and kill 3000 people.
Our "invulnerable" Navy is short ships, short men, and VERY short replacement shipbuilding capacity.
Naval war games, air, land and sea conducted with other countries typically have restrictions placed on the US participants to create a balance where the other countries forces have a chance at success and the US forces are placed under unusually demanding situations.
No way of knowing what the scenario was during this exercise.
I’m not buying it.
I can see it happening. It all depends on the Commanding Officer. The “Von Richthofen Dicta” is a factor in this sort of thing also. As the Baron said, “It’s not the crate, it’s the pilot”. I served aboard a flight 1 688 in the early 80s. During an exercise in the Caribbean we took out an entire CVBG. Of course we had a CO with a pair the size of shaft bearings. 4 48s Into the bird farm, to open the ball, reloaded while evading under the (simulated) blazing wreck. Popped back to PD, only because the scenario required it, and let fly a couple of Harpoons into what turned out to be the oiler. Then torpedoed and “Pooned” every thing in sight. A defensive ring around a carrier is less effective if you’re already inside shooting out. Our only disappointment was that the CVBG returned to Norfolk before we did, and the CO would not let us lash a broom to the periscope as we came by the carrier piers. Fast forward a year, mostly the same wardroom, mostly the same crew. The same highly effective 688. Different CO. Different outcome. I shan’t go into details, but we never got off a shot. The after action report indicated we were “killed” no less that 28 times. My most outstanding memory of that “battle” is of the OOD putting #2 scope on max elevation and seeing on the TV monitor only one WHEEL of the LAMPS III bird that was perched over us. Lesson learned. With the right CO you can take a sub into battle with any opponent, and walk out the other side sporting wood. Odds might catch up on you, but you’ll already be a legend. (Ain’t that right Mush?) With the wrong CO, at least they’ll toll the bell for you on Veterans day.