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The US economy is turning into a nightmare for recruiters: Not enough qualified people to fill jobs
Business Insider ^ | 11/11/2015 | Elena Holodny

Posted on 11/11/2015 5:43:15 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

Oh, there are lots of jobs out there if you are willing to work for next to nothing....

I have a great job that pays pretty well.... but I haven’t had a raise in 3 years.


41 posted on 11/11/2015 6:25:11 PM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: Chickensoup

Nope...they can’t, or won’t

Griggs v. Duke Power ended that forever.


42 posted on 11/11/2015 6:37:51 PM PST by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: Ouderkirk

Tell me what that means??


43 posted on 11/11/2015 6:40:11 PM PST by Chickensoup (We lose our freedoms one surrender at a time)
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To: dragnet2

Yeah, I’ve talked to a few of those folks too.


44 posted on 11/11/2015 6:51:29 PM PST by umgud (v)
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To: ponygirl

The reason for this in government jobs is because the government has their claws so deep into higher education with student loans your experience means nothing anymore!!! This s also WHY the government is so inept!!!!


45 posted on 11/11/2015 6:54:58 PM PST by Kit cat (OBummer must go)
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To: SeekAndFind
You are close. But the other clue is buried in this statement:

HR folks are particularly struggling in the services sector . . .

Most HR people are some of the laziest most worthless people in the company who see their role as little more than commissars to enforce quotas and political correctness. They wouldn't know talent if it hit them in the face because they are too busy running around worshiping at the altar of diversity and PC which, of course, doesn't include anyone over 50 because they have too many of them already.

There are three Chick-Fil-A restaurants in our town that do a better job of recruiting and keeping quality help than most corporate HR Departments. Why do you suppose that is?

46 posted on 11/11/2015 6:59:39 PM PST by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: Chickensoup

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griggs_v._Duke_Power_Co.

Essentially, it ended the company run training programs because the employer could no longer choose those who it would put into their programs. he Wiki article does not specifically say it, but these training programs were collateral damage. The training was shifted to the colleges and universities so the company didn’t have the legal risk of a discrimination lawsuit in the event a person in the program didn’t pass or have another issue. Specifically regarding Griggs it was the administration of aptitude tests that were declared discriminatory.


47 posted on 11/11/2015 6:59:41 PM PST by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: Ouderkirk

Essentially, it ended the company run training programs because the employer could no longer choose those who it would put into their programs. he Wiki article does not specifically say it, but these training programs were collateral damage. The training was shifted to the colleges and universities so the company didn’t have the legal risk of a discrimination lawsuit in the event a person in the program didn’t pass or have another issue. Specifically regarding Griggs it was the administration of aptitude tests that were declared discriminatory.

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48 posted on 11/11/2015 7:01:57 PM PST by Chickensoup (We lose our freedoms one surrender at a time)
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To: SeekAndFind
Total BS..

I know a half dozen guys with excellent qualifications in their fields who can't get anything except a very short term contract now and then. They're in their late forties and early fifties, that's the problem.

The fact is that companies don't want to be responsible for their employees anymore, they want temporary, short term, preferably foreign, employees who are in the age brackets that have the fewest medical and family problems; the cheaper the better, too.

Companies these days would rather hire a herd of half-assed people and try to squeeze something through the process than hire and keep a small group of excellent people who always deliver. After all, the people in charge cover their butts with paper and get their bonuses whether things work our or not.

Employees are the latest victim of the throwaway culture, that's the bottom line.

49 posted on 11/11/2015 7:02:45 PM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Perdogg

I didn’t know that. I’ve worked with a number of PE’s and they’re top notch.

I guess I’ll pay more attention to your Bond reviews. ;)


50 posted on 11/11/2015 7:05:10 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Rashputin

First we had Just-In-Time Inventory, now it’s “Just-In-Time” employees.


51 posted on 11/11/2015 7:06:21 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Norm Lenhart
Back about 15 years ago the American Society of Civil Engineers was pushing for a "Masters or Equivalent" to be required before sitting for the P.E. exam. It was nothing more than blatant simultaneous fellatio going on between Academia and the Professional Society. Even now every state board of Professional Engineers and Land Surveyors is requiring mandatory "Continuing Education Credits" to retain a PE license.

My old man saw the writing on the wall and folded his firm and retired rather than have to jump through hoops... which he shouldn't have to be doing with 45 years of field experience in Mechanical Engineering Design.

52 posted on 11/11/2015 7:12:33 PM PST by Rodamala
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To: proxy_user
I guess they’ll have to offer higher wages. Then the workers they need will magically appear.

It hasn't happened to us in the IT field. H1B's are a necessary evil.
53 posted on 11/11/2015 7:31:22 PM PST by TexasGunLover ("Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists."-- President George W. Bush)
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To: SeekAndFind

But obuma said that the economy is great and the unemployed are way down....and now we read: “HE LIED” oh my..../s

That’s what you get for voting for the dim wit TWICE!!!


54 posted on 11/11/2015 7:38:58 PM PST by HarleyLady27 (I have such happy days, I hope you do too!!!)
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To: Rashputin

Spot on! See my post #46.


55 posted on 11/11/2015 7:43:38 PM PST by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: skeeter

“350 million people and a dearth of qualified workers? Well, I guess we should throw open the borders then.”

Got it in ONE....

Another reason employers cannot find “qualified” people is DRUG TESTING...

You’d be utterly amazed at how many people under 40 (and a lot OVER 40) can’t pass a drug screen.


56 posted on 11/11/2015 8:02:32 PM PST by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: SeekAndFind; Chickensoup

The removal of company certification programs had a very nasty offshoot that is responsible for a lot of the problems mentioned in the article. Namely that the idea of an entry level, private sector job in the US pretty much dead. SeekAndFind’s faux job posting is only slightly unrealistic, any job posting you find requires work experience and it does not always even have to be in your field. Essentially what it boils down to is students MUST do some sort of internship or co-op in order to even be considered for any job anywhere.

Part of this requirement is from the removal of company training programs and the other from how itinerant workers have become. Spending 6 months training someone on the job rather then 1 month doing it in a classroom makes it expensive to train a fresh from college worker to any degree of usefulness, an endeavor made less attractive when most of your “first job” hires will move on after a year or two, essentially once they are past the two year work experience minimum, in search of greener pastures.

I saw a cartoon job posting recently that went something along the lines of “company looking for a 20 something. Great pay, great benefits, paid vacation, etc. 30 years work experience required.” That a cartoonist can write such a thing in satirical seriousness shows how bad the entry level job market is, which combined with an unwillingness to hire older workers due to health and other costs, explains how the US can have both record number job openings and record number un/underemployed. You know there is a problem when it made more economic sense for my friend to drop out of a masters program then turn down an entry level job offer.


57 posted on 11/11/2015 11:16:31 PM PST by Tempest302
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To: SeekAndFind

“Maybe this is this the employer’s way of saying “I can’t find someone willing to work at the money I am willing to pay””

Bingo!

At 60 I am at the peak of my career, I still get recruiters offering me jobs at half what I make now.


58 posted on 11/12/2015 2:34:12 AM PST by vanilla swirl (We are almost fully Soviet now, no gulags because we are not feared.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Something screwy with this...92 million people not working and they cannot find people? Maybe people would rather not work and eat food stamps that work for short hours, no benefits and lower wages?


59 posted on 11/12/2015 3:44:29 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag ( Anything FREELY-GIVEN by the government was TAKEN from someone else)
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To: skeeter

After seeing the college kids screaming and yelling...following Obama and Sanders, Im all in favor of H1B visas!!!!


60 posted on 11/12/2015 4:07:05 AM PST by rrrod (just an old guy with a gun in his pocket.l)
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