Please understand that I am NOT challenging the pastor’s LEGAL rights, in any way suggesting that his actions were criminal.
But bad-assery aside, does anyone think that this may have been overkill?
Not really. The pastor had to make an exceptionally difficult call and that despite having attempted to help this man previously, his violent behaviour was not a direct threat to the congregation. Christ told his disciples that if they did not have a sword, sell their cloak and buy one. The pastor served his flock.
“But bad-assery aside, does anyone think that this may have been overkill?”
No.
Standard firearms training. Shoot to stop the threat.
You put as many center mass rounds into the attacker as it takes for them to go down.
It sounds to me like the pastor probly had insight into the mans potential for stupidness and acted accordingly.
I do. Unless it was a congregation of infants.
Absolutely not! Self defense is a basic human right, and they used what they had to defend themselves…...
Huh?
Ability, Opportunity and Intent, the three foundational criteria of a lethal force encounter were met. Shoot to stop. I am certain the Reverend did not have equal-force brick handy, but then again, my Glock kinda looks like a brick too. Countervailing force was the problem solver in that house of worship.
Maybe some would consider an attack by a man armed with a brick to be a lessor threat, but not one willing to be killed or maimed by it....Perhaps too many folks take “Walker, Texas Ranger” TV too seriously.
No one, other than the perp was hurt. A good shoot from a pastor who probably does put in some range time.
You ever been bashed in the head with a brick?
I don’t. My church has a lot of small kids in it. Some of them are my kids. A grown man with a brick could make quick work on them before anyone could stop him.
Maybe the fellow with the brick demanded to speak directly with the manager. Now he has that chance.
Overkill? Absolutely not. The Pastor is the shepherd of his flock and is responsible for their safety from harm. How many able bodied men are in church services these days in proportion to women, children and elderly? I would guess for every strong man there are 10 congregants that need protection.
Only that it took four or five shots to stop the perp.
considering that he may have been standing near church family members and the fact that ot takes a mere second to smash someone's skull in, NO. Better to remove one threat than to have several dead bodies because you failed to act.
No. A brick is a deadly weapon that could easily cause serious injury or even death. It was clearly being wielded as a weapon, per the report.
I suppose you think the pastor should have shot the brick out of the deranged man’s hands?
No. A brick is deadly force.
NO! When your efforts “have gone south” it is time for Glock to speak. AMEN
Have you already forgotten what happened in the church in South Carolina? This minister hasn’t....
5 rules of a gun fight:
1) gun beats no gun - do not leave it at home
2) fast beats slow - he who shots first, often shoots last
3) a hit beats a miss - a .22 that hits beats a .44 that misses
4) big holes beat little holes - given the 3 rules above, larger calibers beat small calibers
5) Many holes beat one hole - If one shot is good, then two is better.
I am of the opinion that there is no such thing as over kill
Not overkill in my opinion. The man could have killed or maimed someone in a one second crash of the brick to a head.