Posted on 09/23/2015 10:18:47 PM PDT by Ray76
Chris Matthews reported back on December 18th, 2007 that 2008 presidential candidate Barack Obama was born in Indonesia and has an Islamic background.
Video at link
(Excerpt) Read more at birtherreport.com ...
Time will tell.
The book was about the political process and maneuvers of the 2012 campaign. The birther issue didn’t stop the Obama reelection.
‘Of course on the other hand, it takes a pretty nimble mind to juggle all the lies he tells, so I’m not surprised he accidentally drops one of them on occasion.’
Hence the ubiquitous teleprompter. Even his most dedicated supporters, I recall, at one time expressed disappointment that Obama could scarcely string a sentence together on his own. I also just read where David Maraniss went through some of Obama’s writing, corrected a slew of grammatical errors, and then presented the edited work as an original Obama quote.
Obots. They will stoop to any level to prop up the con man they so blindly and stupidly support.
They are not all stupid. Some of them are merely corrupt, and others are merely delusional. Of course, some are stupid, corrupt AND delusional, and I expect this is the largest group.
Once more. How did Obama’s big discovery ‘beat the birthers’? Your blathering about my reading comprehensive is pure projection. You are the one who cannot read at even the most basic level. But please do explain: how did this mythical ‘find’ of Obama’s beat the brothers?
Yeah, when I am contemplating qualifications for President, I look for someone who has abandonment issues from both parents and who made it in this rough and tumble world on the basis of his minority background. I also look for someone who has organized and rabble roused through communities that didn’t need it. Very Important point... He must have NO EXPERIENCE in any sort of job and must speak well when reading what’s written for him. He must be petulant and pissy, with very thin skin.
Well of course you yawn. Nothing bores a liberal leftist obot more than a litany of Obama’s crimes against the USA.
He really is a very stupid man. They have to constantly watch and direct him to prevent him from saying stupid things. If you've ever watched him try to speak when his teleprompter fails, you realize immediately that this lazy, ignorant, petulant man-child is really stupid.
Of course everything he has done indicates that already.
Agree about the dishonesty and delusion. All obots share those traits. As to the other, I’m willing to soften it to ‘IQ challenged.’ But in that form, I am convinced it applies to all of them. Every single one.
‘If you’ve ever watched him try to speak when his teleprompter fails, you realize immediately that this lazy, ignorant, petulant man-child is really stupid.’
I have watched him when the teleprompter malfunctioned, and it is indescribably embarrassing. There are factual indicators that he was never especially bright, but it’s also likely he’s done more drugs and consumed more alcohol than can be imagined. He seems brain addled in some settings.
L4B is a drug=addled, sexual degenerate, liar ... a perfect democrat politician!
First time I’ve seen him called L4B. Degeneracy and Democrats are inextricably intertwined, that’s for sure.
It’s like a very long bad dream. We think eventually we must inevitably wake up, and discover that surely the American people never elected the pothead in your pic.
There's no wriggle room to this:
“[I] verify the following:
1. A birth certificate is on file with the Department of Health indicating that Barack Hussein Obama, II was born in Honolulu, Hawaii.”
Not when further below Onaka says this is based on "the original Certificate of Live Birth."
Your quibble is that he doesn't use the term "prove," though, as I noted before (though you ignored it as usual), "prove" is a legal conclusion, and it would be improper for a statement by such a fact witness to use the term "prove." The legal proof is provided by statute:
(b) A verification shall be considered for all purposes certification that the vital event did occur and that the facts of the event are as stated by the applicant."
Of course, true to your usual dishonest form, you cherry-pick and consider statutes only as you think they support you. So a 1982 statute (which didn't apply in 1961) you cite because you think it opens the door to the "foreign birth" possibility, but then you ignore the one that says "this birth fact is thus proven" all the while you're quibbling that Hawaii reps won't say "it's proven."
The only reasonable conclusion from this is that they are lying.
Another conclusion is that you're a proven incompetent when it comes to trying to understand statutory, case law, and other legal matters (gosh, do you need another summary of those instances?) and you're missing the mark here again.
People who actually know what they are talking about find this latter conclusion eminently reasonable.
A stilted and awkward attempt at wit from a stilted and awkward thinker.
The fact remains, Obama can have a fake birth certificate because the system is engineered to allow it.
So, in your view, he was likely born in Canada, but ended up with a birth certificate saying he was born in a hospital in Honolulu. Your pointing out that the system allowed for registration of home births doesn't explain how he ends up being born in a hospital. And your pointing out (wrongly) that Hawaii then allowed for registration of foreign births doesn't explain how the certificate then places the birth in Honolulu.
Applying your same level of skepticism, every one of us could have a fake birth certificate that we could never use for any reason because we can't prove the negative that it wasn't somehow just totally messed up from the beginning. But that's not how our system works. State attestation of birth in the state suffices in all other cases. It's just ridiculous Birther special-pleading (a logical fallacy) that seeks to deny that in this one instance.
Foreign births fall within this engineered-by-law, category, and Obama could very well be one of them,
Except for that little problem with your theory here that in 1961 there was no statutory basis for registering a foreign birth (and, no, you didn't "address this" because you have failed to cite any territorial law that actually would have permitted in Obama's case what you claim. (And even under the 1982 law, Hawaii says the obvious thing: that the certificate would list the foreign place of birth -- not Hawaii -- in a foreign birth situation).
though the evidence indicates he was born in Canada, more so than anywhere else.
There's not one bit of documentary or witness testimony to support a Canadian birth. Or is this like your supposed "other historical evidence" of a jus sanguinis -- you claim it's there but just aren't going to show anyone?
Grow up
This from the name-calling doofus who likes to post silly pictures. You are too funny.
Make that “disprove the negative” above.
As they say on Family Feud: “Ooo, good answer, good answer!”
I actually never regarded Keith Laumer as stilted and awkward thinker. He was quite brilliant in fact. Anyone familiar with his work would have recognized the name immediately.
They would also have recognized the sort to which he referred; those people who will pounce on a trifle to distract from more important points. That is your modes operendi.
“[I] verify the following: 1. A birth certificate is on file with the Department of Health indicating that Barack Hussein Obama, II was born in Honolulu, Hawaii.”
Yes, you really are a f*cking idiot. You can parse every word I right for a hidden meaning, but you haven't got the wit to figure out two different wiggle-outs contained in that sentence.
Let me help you out.
"on file" means whatever document has been placed in their records, and includes any documents that have been subsequently modified.
The word "Indicate" does not mean "prove." It may very well falsely "indicate" and by design. That's what adoption generated birth certificates are supposed to do.
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