This guy went to college, but it doesn't make him husband material [Difficulty finding eligible men]

New York Post ^ | 09/16/2015 | By Karol Markowicz

[SeekAndFind]

It’s a complaint at least as old as “Sex and the City”: Where are all the good, dateable men? Why are there so many amazing women and so few acceptable mates for them? For a long time, the conclusions drawn were that women were doing something wrong. Too aggressive, not aggressive enough, not putting themselves out there, putting themselves out there a little too often.

A new book “Date-onomics: How Dating Became a Lopsided Numbers Game” by Jon Birger sets out to show that women aren’t doing anything wrong: There just aren’t enough Mr. Rights to go around.

Birger explains that this is the experience nationally, not just in oft-mentioned dating wastelands like New York City. With more women going to college than ever before, there are only so many baccalaureate bachelors for them to meet and marry.

That seems reasonable at first glance. Hey, if a woman is looking for someone with her level of education, and this is a deal-breaker for her, then sure, there’s a serious shortage of suitable men.

Birger points out that a woman who was 34 in 2007 began college in 1991 when women outnumbered men on college campuses by 10 percent. He notes that “in 2012, 34 percent more women than men graduated 4-year colleges.”

The numbers are indeed daunting. But they obscure a question all of these unmarried college-graduate women should be asking themselves: Why does a degree matter so much, anyway?

In his book “The Higher Education Bubble,” Glenn Reynolds quotes statistics showing that the cost of college has increased 439 percent since 1982. Reynolds’ book discusses the crippling debt many college graduates carry and how many of their degrees make the debt nearly impossible to ever erase.

[wbarmy]

I can agree with that. In addition, the policies to get more women into colleges actually seek those kind of women.

[sten]

Why are there so many amazing women and so few acceptable mates for them?

that's not opinionated.

sorry, those 'amazing' college women also believe they're just like men and can have sex with whoever they wish

older Americans have no concept just how slutty women have become. think sandra fluke and her need for hundreds of condoms.

and then there's the issue with a majority of college women being raving liberal nutbags (goes along with being a slut).

real men avoid liberal chicks at all costs. who needs that level of drama?

[annieokie]

Well said.....and that's the truth.

Another point: Mom's are responsible for raising their son's, especially in this day when there are no fathers around, so who is to blame ladies. Your leftist ideas have taken the right to be a little boy full of good clean fun mischief out of them, and you expect something different?

Just this week, a thread on FR. Little boy punished for KISSING a little girl........., guess if he had kissed a little boy that would be glorified.

I'm so sick of woman's behavior these days, WAR ON WOMAN my ______ . Actually there should really be a war on women, tell them to go home, dress properly, prepare a descent meal and care for their families. Make room for the MAN to have a job.

[pepsionice]

Around 2006 to 2009....I worked in an office which was mostly women, over the age of thirty-five, and single. They would come and whine to me about the terrible woes of being 35 to 45 years old, and unable to find a decent guy.

I would listen to the arguments and agree to some degree. They wanted a guy who had reasonable debt, no extreme sports attitude, no heavy drinking....it’d be a laundry list of a dozen issues. Frankly, they’d filtered out enough guys to find virtually no acceptable guys around at age thirty-five. I suggested that they ought to start looking for guys who were 25 years old and just accept a younger guy who would fit the profile, and they just laughed.

In 2010, I moved to DC for three years and found a lot of women in the same problem group there. The chief issue I think...is that the ‘bar’ has been raised and these women don’t want any immaturity or stupid problems. They also know a fair amount about debt and don’t want a guy who owes $75,000 on credit cards, or has an ex-wife that he pays $1,500 a month for alimony. I worked with one guy who was happily married, but he had a kid from a relationship 15 years prior....that he was paying child support on ($300 a month) and his wife was all peeved about this extra cost to the family budget. It’s the new world that we live in, and you to accept this stuff.

[wbarmy]

You are 100% correct that men do not need “Collage” to support a comfortable life. College is extremely helpful though.

[homegroan]

I have always been attracted to men who are smart or smarter than I am. And I never cared about degrees because there are many types of ‘smart’and it is fun to be with someone who is smart in different ways than I am- say,gardening, in which I have a murderous thumb and kill anything I touch. Or a cowboy-I love horses but don’t know much about them. It is fun to be with someone like that as long as the foundation is the same i.e. be a Conservative etc. And these things require no degrees.

But now that I’m in my 50s, it is increasingly difficult to find men who want to ‘live’ life; most just don’t want to be alone, and you need much more than that to have a worthwhile relationship.

It’s tough out there!

[metmom]

If women are looking at a college education as the criteria for an eligible husband, they are using the wrong thing to evaluate their men with.

Character counts far more than a piece of paper to hang on the wall that someone may or may not have deserved.

[Maine Mariner]

And the average age of a marine engineer is something like 60 years old. These young men and women that finish this union run apprentice program will have good solid careers with advancement to chief engineer in 6-10 years.
Also, tuition, room and board are furnished to these apprentices (cadet?) at no charge.

[annieokie]

I agree and I also see that you have explained why Satan went to tempt EVE first..........

[metmom]

Many of the men I have the most respect for as people don’t have college degrees.

[PapaBear3625]

She asks, “Why are there so many amazing women and so few acceptable mates for them?”

Lady, they are only "amazing" in your eyes. To the "eligible" guys, they are over the hill, high mileage, with huge expectations.

What I told my daughters: "Find your man in your early 20's, and nail him down well before 30. Be open to dating men several years older."

In your early 20's women have the maximum number of eligible men available. For every year that goes by, the pool of available men shrinks as other women grab the best ones and marry them.

In their early 20's, women are at their peak attractiveness, and have the most years of fertility ahead of them. In their 30's, the men their age are more experienced, and the successful, high-status men the women crave, are looking for women in their 20's.

[BJ1]

>>>But now that I’m in my 50s, it is increasingly difficult to find men who want to ‘live’ life; most just don’t want to be alone, and you need much more than that to have a worthwhile relationship.<<<<

I’m curious. Have you been married before? And if you found a nice guy who didn’t want to be alone, isn’t that better than what you have now?

[metmom]

That sword cuts both ways.

Men have beer bellies, are unshaven, toothless, have no interest in personal hygiene, dress pretty slovenly themselves, and if your talk is an example of men’s language, you have no business complaining about how women talk.

And when all men expect that in spite of all the aforementioned, they deserve a woman that looks like post 9, then they’re going to be dissatisfied with what they see.

[RatRipper]

Why are there so many amazing women and so few acceptable mates for them?

I think I see a big part of the problem right there, princess.

Quadruple bingo!!!!!

Sweetheart, your monumentally arrogant attitude will cripple your ability to maintain relationships. Women like you have proven to us men over and over again that, no matter how hard we try, that we can never live up to your arrogant expectations. I once ran across the following attributed as an old saying:

Unrealistic expectations are premeditated resentments.

Unrealistic expectations for relationships and marriages, coupled with raw selfishness, is killing our culture and our families.

[dfwgator]

A lot of women have become gay men trapped in women’s bodies, like the women on “Sex And the City”.

[annieokie]

All the reply post on this thread speaks directly to why I DO NOT WANT A FEMALE PRESIDENT...EVER......

Bossy Know it all Bitches (Ok, I said the word, dang me)

[PapaBear3625]

I know I'm married to the exact right woman that God had chosen out for me for the last 23 years, and I sincerely hope I die before her because I don't want to go through life without her. That said, if I am widowed, my next wife will be an illiterate 18 year old Peasant girl. I will refuse to allow her to learn English, and will only lavish her with praise if she keeps the house clean and cooks well. If this turns off some of you single Freeper women, good.

I've been with my wife over 30 years, and feel the same way you do. I lucked out tremendously and got a great wife. I also hope I die before her, as I don't like the current dating game. The 18 year old peasant girl sounds good.

[glasseye]

I got my paper, BS in Biology, 1982.
And it was paid for when I left school.
I saw what my friends endured, having the life/family they worked so hard for destroyed.
Put me off the ‘picket fence’ dream.
Life has been good to me so far.

[DaxtonBrown]

If you look up college majors by gender it explains the angst. Lots of women in college, taking psychology and social welfare majors.

[Dr. Sivana]

The way to beat such a game is to pick a different game.

I have the college degree, have done graduate work, and am generally gainfully employed.

My wife, whose intelligence is at the same level as mine based on SAT performance (I did better on math, she did better on verbal) knew she wanted to get married and raise a family.

Both of us were committed to the notion of saving ourselves for marriage. That makes the playing field MUCH smaller, but better men and women all around (except for the liars).

We agree to a traditional division of labor and responsibilities. The main thing added is she does the bulk of the home schooling.

We are practical Catholics, which means no divorce. All our friends and a good chunk of our extended families would jump down our throats if we pretended such a thing were possible.

Because of when I live, I am better able to appreciate who my wife is because the deformed version of the institution is all around. I also know that the social pressures on women to adopt the current mindset are very great.