Posted on 09/13/2015 12:39:28 AM PDT by Swordmaker
Apple unveiled a new iPad Pro and stylus on Wednesday, and professional artists are ecstatic.
The Apple Pencil is pressure sensitive. Press lightly, and the stroke gets thinner. Tilt the pencil, and the stroke gets thicker. Pair it with an iPad Pro, and there's finally an Apple (AAPL, Tech30) device to replace paper sketchbooks.
College students can balance this on a knee when doing sketches at an art museum. Comic book artists can finally work from the couch. Sure, electronic drawing pads already exist. But the best ones are bulky and stay at the desk. And until now, artists using iPads to draw were forced to buy a third-party stylus that was unreliable, with delayed reaction times between the stylus and screen and inaccurate drawing strokes.
David Macy is an artist at Adobe who tested the iPad-Pencil pairing sometime before this week's announcement. He told CNNMoney that he was impressed by the iPad's ability to quickly switch between programs, carrying files from one to another.
And the stylus-tablet communication is seamless, he said.
(Excerpt) Read more at money.cnn.com ...
>>The Wacom Cintiq has had this ability and more for about a decade.
Yes it has. But it is just an input device, while this iPad is the whole brush, paint, and canvas...and it can send your work wirelessly to a computer halfway around the world. Surely, you are capable of seeing that this is a lot more than a Wacom pad.
It’s funny how Apple gets credit for catching up with Android every time. I cannot stand it seeing these poooor college kids with their apple logo in cafes. They unnecessarily pay 5 times as much for a little shiny logo for all to see.
Bunch a mindless submissive Konformist Klones. The only time they rebel is when they get a tattooed all over an arm. Yeah, look how unique I am shelling out $10,000 of daddy's money to get repulsive pagan s___ tattooed all over my arm or leg
Those comments are usually the result of posts about viruses, hours of defragging, and other tasks that make you spend considerable time on the PC working on the PC itself rather than your computational needs. Most of us Mac users have been there... but only in past tense.
You do understand Christmas is a PAGAN Holiday don't you??
When Steve made this comment I was using a Samsung flip phone with a 2 inch screen, it was impossible to use without a stylus. When I lost the Stylus I essentially had a flip phone not a smart phone. Steve new this and wanted you to be able to use something you likely couldn't lose.
Anyone who looked at what this stick actually does could not possibly refer to the Apple Pencil as a stick unless they are psychotic or maybe paid to do so.
> Show us a Windows thread where an Apple Mac user has insulted a Windows user. PLEASE. I don't think you can find one. . .
Interestingly, while Windows threads often have comments from Linux and Mac fans (typically "Get a Mac" or "Funny, my Linux box doesn't have this problem"), my observation is that the comments that slam Windows the hardest are usually from the Windows users who are fed up with it and hate it.
Another general impression I have is that while Mac and Linux users typically disparage Windows itself and sometimes offer sympathy for Windows users, the Windows users generally disparage the Mac users more than OS X itself, making the comments more personal and less appropriate for FreeRepublic threads.
But I think if you were to search the archives thoroughly, you'd find examples of just about everything. Sorting and weighing it to determine who hurls more insults and so forth is not something I have the least interest in doing. But anyone else is welcome. :-)
FR search for Windows threads: Just search on keyword "windowspinglist".
The Wacom Cintiq has had this ability and more for about a decade.
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Blasphemer.
It’s not Apple.
Comparison article claiming the Surface Pro 3 is the better choice.
https://fstoppers.com/originals/ipad-pro-vs-surface-pro-3-vs-wacom-cintiq-85822
This “review” is basically worthless.
However I should have chosen the Chinese New Year as their primary holiday.
amigatec, I am certainly aware of the history of Christmas, but this was a thread about holiday sales not religion.
Please show me that comment. . . and show me how that is an attack on the user of the nature of an insult to the USER. If it happens much, it is more of a disparagement to the Windows platform. . . this comment by Sten was a disparagement of iPad user's maturity.
Lots of great things to say about yesterday's Apple Keynote, I'm here to talk about one specific point of contention I keep seeing pop up. Currently the Wacom Cintiq is regarded as the pinnacle of professional drawing stylus/surface design. A lot of hesitation (or dismissal) of the Apple Pencil seems to stem from people's belief that Cintiq is superior in performance and design at a similar price. 😩 *sigh*
Quite plainly, the Cintiq sucks in comparison. And I've been using them for years for industrial design sketching, UI, and art. Let's compare the experience:
Stylus Design
The Apple Pencil has a much narrower body and tip, allowing the stylus to not obscure the drawing itself. I would also argue it provides more freedom of drawing motion. The Cintiq stylus is big, the pen tip is wobbly, your fingers randomly collide into the side buttons, and everything feels like cheap jiggly plastic.
Surface Design
Cintiqs are heavy, really heavy. The ones deemed "portable" are hardly at best. Most of them come with a giant set of cords because, obviously, they need to be plugged in to a computer. The screens aren't retina, the color is whack, the brightest it can display is not very bright and there's a lot of reflection. Most importantly the screen itself has a huge air gap between the pen and the digital screen, causing parallax. No amount calibration shakes the feeling that you're not actually drawing on this surface. All these things are a non-issue with the iPad Pro, also it runs its own OS and has multitouch build in, you'll be paying $2000+ for multitouch on a Cintiq.
Drawing
Latency latency latency. As in all that latency I can visibly see as I wait for my stroke to catch up with my Cintiq pen. Oops! Dragged my pen too far because I couldn't see where the strike would end up? Guess that's why I mapped 10 of these buttons to Ctrl+Z. This is the game changer with the Apple Pencil, barely any latency so you actually feel like the pencil is leaving ink and can see the outcome of your drawing as its happening. Real-life pencils have gotten this figured out for years. It also seems like pressure and tilt are mapped more sensitively compared to the Cintiq. Outcome: drawing more of what you intended on the first try.
The iPad Pro + Apple Pencil: $899 $1,179 The cheapest, non-touch-enabled Cintiq: $799 All other Cintiq models: $1,000 - $2,800
So my advice to anyone trying to decide between buying Apple Setup vs. Cintiq is run far far away from the Cintiq. Especially if you're a student. Specialized professionals that have their cintiqs hooked up to PC's running Solidworks, C4D, CAD, yeahhhhh.....I guess cross your fingers they make iPad apps.
http://www.lindadong.com/blog//apple-pencil-vs-wacom-cintiq
Right without knowing anything I figured the Asians would at least have Christmas as a minor holiday just to seem worldly
The real latency here is it took Apple iPad Pro two years to catch up with the Microsoft Surface

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Five times as much? Let's see? The lowest price 12.9" iPad Pro sells for a little under $800. So, exactly WHAT Android tablet with 5,581,476 pixel Android 12.9" Android tablet sells for $160, Phillyred? Or even close to that????
Samsung's 12.2 inch Galaxy Note 12.2 with 3.1 million pixel tablet sells for $649 and is probably the closest in specs, and is still a lot slower and less responsive. It is certainly NOT five times less expensive.
If you know of one that sells for $160, please provide a link.
If you are referring to Apple MacBook Airs, the lowest price a college student can buy a brand new Air for is $849, So if you can find a Windows notebook with similar specsprocessor, weight, screen resolution, features, software suite, four year old resale value, etc.that one can buy for $170, post that as well. . . if not, admit you don't know what you are talking about.
On the contrary, Asians have embraced December holidays and in some cases try to outdo the west in gift giving. There are several Asian specific holidays in December which are celebrated with gusto. . . such as the Dongzhai Festival beginning on December 22 and the Winter Solstice Festival which the Communists instituted to replace the religious celebrations around the same period such as Christmas. The Philippines are big celebrators of Christmas as are the Aussies and New Zealanders. Shagatsu New Years is recognized with gift giving in Japan, starting on December 30, and December 23rd is the Emperor's Birthday, a day also celebrated with gift giving and receiving.
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