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Of course the New York Times has an entirely dismissive take on the significance of this anniversary and the "Great Charter" - surprise!
1 posted on 06/15/2015 6:00:10 AM PDT by SES1066
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From the NYT Opinion pages "But its fame rests on several myths. First, it wasn’t effective. In fact, it was a failure." Could it be that a liberal publication does not like DWEMs (Dead White European Males) and iconic historical documents (US Constitution?) unless liberals are permitted to freely interpret at will?

Of course if the Magna Carta was such a failure, why are we celebrating it 4/5s of a millennium later?

2 posted on 06/15/2015 6:06:52 AM PDT by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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The Magna Carta has some interesting passages about debts to Jews.

Of course it does say that debts to Non-Jews should be handled the same way:

If anyone who has borrowed a sum of money from Jews dies before the debt has been repaid, his heir shall pay no interest on the debt for so long as he remains under age, irrespective of whom he holds his lands.

If such a debt falls into the hands of the Crown, it will take nothing except the principal sum specified in the bond.

If a man dies owing money to Jews, his wife may have her dower and pay nothing towards the debt from it.
If he leaves children that are under age, their needs may also be provided for on a scale appropriate to the size of his holding of lands.
The debt is to be paid out of the residue, reserving the service due to his feudal lords.

Debts owed to persons other than Jews are to be dealt with similarly.

If debts to Jews and Non-Jews were to be handled the same, why call out the Jews?

Antisemitism Is the obvious answer.

3 posted on 06/15/2015 6:16:15 AM PDT by Mikey_1962 (Democrats have destroyed more cities than Godzilla)
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Indeed but the Establishment (aka Globalist) along with many in the media like CNN are doing everything they can to bring back in feudalism on a global scale.


6 posted on 06/15/2015 6:32:52 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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Yay! More Magna Carta!


7 posted on 06/15/2015 6:36:18 AM PDT by matginzac
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The Magna Carta established that the King (read central government) had to abide by the laws and could not go outside the law.

So tell me again how we are progressing on that CNN?


8 posted on 06/15/2015 6:40:04 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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The 1100 Charter of Liberties was the basis for the Magna Carta. It said death taxes and being exempt from the law was considered “evil and oppressive”.


9 posted on 06/15/2015 6:44:34 AM PDT by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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Neither Magna Carta, nor our Constitution, were intended to promote the irrational system which is called "modern democracy."

As Madison explained--explicitly explained--the Constitution was intended to protect Americans from democracy--or mob rule. Both Magna Carta--which was a clear example of Jefferson's point in the preamble to the Declaration of Independence, as to the political/social compact, which is the basis of a just Government;--and the Constitution, protected private property & natural rights from an over-reaching Government. Any form of overreaching Government! They were about the limitations on Governmental ability to meddle in the lives of those subject to a Government.

Democracy--or rule by numbers--does not address the essential rights that are held against Government--or despite Government, whether of the few or the many.

Neither the Norman Barons, nor the Founding Fathers, would have considered it one whit more tolerable, to lose their rights in their own property, to either King John, or a coalition of Leftist factions, put together by a Clinton, Bush or Obama. Not one whit more tolerable!

You will not find in all of human history any time when any one but demagogues and scoundrels benefited from the notion that you can determine morality simply by counting noses!

10 posted on 06/15/2015 7:49:34 AM PDT by Ohioan
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From Runnymeade to Philadelphia.


14 posted on 06/15/2015 9:16:06 AM PDT by CPT Clay
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