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Hiroshima and Nagasaki atomic bomb documentary[REAL TRUTH]
Military Channel ^ | Nov 29, 2014 | Military Channel

Posted on 06/08/2015 2:17:41 PM PDT by StormPrepper

Documents recently discovered and Japanese scientist acknowledge that Japan had a nuclear weapons program in WW2. The Japanese had made big strides toward creating their own atomic bomb.

Very interesting documentary.


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KEYWORDS: ww2
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1 posted on 06/08/2015 2:17:41 PM PDT by StormPrepper
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To: StormPrepper

If you think about it, a Japanese nuke wouldn’t have had the same effect on us as ours had on them.

It would have angered us even more and likely led to us putting even more people into the fight.


2 posted on 06/08/2015 2:21:09 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: StormPrepper

It never got very far but they were considering building a dirty bomb.
Germany got a bit farther.


3 posted on 06/08/2015 2:28:08 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: cripplecreek
If you think about it, a Japanese nuke wouldn’t have had the same effect on us as ours had on them.

True. But can you imagine what would have happened if they had set it off in a US harbor?

But I think the worst would have been if they set it off on a US fleet...

If they would have waited until the US tried to invade and blasted the entire invasion fleet... wow, that's a horrible vision.
4 posted on 06/08/2015 2:29:58 PM PDT by StormPrepper
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To: Zathras
In 1946 it was reported in news papers that Japan had actually tested an atomic bomb. There was also a witness.

Germany tried to make something from heavy water, which was nothing. Although Germany did have Uranium and tried to send 1000lbs of it to Japan.
5 posted on 06/08/2015 2:33:23 PM PDT by StormPrepper
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To: cripplecreek

Japan did not surrender because we dropped a nuke. They surrendered because we dropped a second nuke AND they did not know that those were the only nukes that we had.

Making the Japanese believe that we would keep dropping nukes until they either surrendered or ceased to exist is what finally ended the war.


6 posted on 06/08/2015 2:38:33 PM PDT by kennedy (No relation to those other Kennedys.)
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To: StormPrepper
Japan dropped its program, concluding it did not have the vast resources necessary to build a fission bomb. They didn't think we did, either.

When the second bomb dropped, they discovered not only did we have the resources, but we had enough to build the bombs two ways, uranium and plutonium. It was shock and awe to the Japanese scientists and engineers who understood what we had done.

7 posted on 06/08/2015 2:44:53 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: kennedy
Japan did not surrender because we dropped a nuke. They surrendered because we dropped a second nuke AND they did not know that those were the only nukes that we had.

Making the Japanese believe that we would keep dropping nukes until they either surrendered or ceased to exist is what finally ended the war.

Yes. They had no idea that it would take many months to re-stock. But they knew that we would scale production to unimaginable levels, eventually.

So much for fighting to the death.

Plus these weapons proved that war, between large nations, is obsolete.

Death from war has basically disappeared and we are fortunate to be born (most of us) in this era.

8 posted on 06/08/2015 2:46:22 PM PDT by cicero2k
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To: StormPrepper
The top German scientists purposely led the atomic program to heavy water knowing it would be unfruitful.
9 posted on 06/08/2015 2:49:34 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: StormPrepper

China has the bomb and the means to deliver them.
Their military expands everyday and the US is broke.
Liberalism, pacifism, and the introspective blame-game runs our foreign policy.
History has a peculiar tendency to repeat itself.


10 posted on 06/08/2015 2:50:12 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: StormPrepper
Read the book: The Making Of The Atomic Bomb by Richard Rhodes. The twenty-fifth anniversary edition is out. In the book according to those people who were there, Germany and Japan had nothing even close. You had more atomic material in an old Gilbert's Atom Science kit for kids.

Germany had a cast iron kettle with some nuclear product imersed in a three foot pit of heavy water. That was it. Japan's ruling council wouldn't let the atomic researchers have some electronic equipment need for the war effort. It took General Grove to turn the US into a giant bomb making factory that produced two weapons. One a fission bomb and the other a fusion bomb. Plus the one used at Trinity.

It's all in the well researched book and a great read.

Was part of my home schooling reading list.

11 posted on 06/08/2015 2:55:32 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am ...)
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To: StormPrepper

Home viewing bookmark.


12 posted on 06/08/2015 2:58:11 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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Given our B29’s destruction of so much of their infrastructure, I cannot imagine Japan getting close to having a nuke. Look what it took to make ours. You break that chain and you have setbacks.

You’re right about the second bomb. Hirohito doubted that one bomb had destroyed one city, but 3 days later he learned the horrible truth.


13 posted on 06/08/2015 3:00:09 PM PDT by Loud Mime (Honor the Commandments because they're not suggestions; stop gambling on forgiveness.)
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To: SpaceBar
China has the bomb and the means to deliver them. Their military expands everyday and the US is broke. Liberalism, pacifism, and the introspective blame-game runs our foreign policy. History has a peculiar tendency to repeat itself.

It will not be history repeating itself: the United States has never been ruled by a foreign power. I fear that happening.

Keep track of the voters who wanted this change.

14 posted on 06/08/2015 3:03:01 PM PDT by Loud Mime (Honor the Commandments because they're not suggestions; stop gambling on forgiveness.)
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To: SkyDancer
One a fission bomb and the other a fusion bomb.

Both Fat Man and Little Boy were fission bombs

Little Boy was a uranium gun device. Fat Man and the Trinity device were both plutonium implosion devices.

The first true fusion device (not a deployable bomb) was detonated in 1951.

15 posted on 06/08/2015 3:05:14 PM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: cicero2k
They had no idea that it would take many months to re-stock.

We had a total of three nukes, all different designs. The first one we set off to test. Until we did, we had no idea whether or not any would work. The next two we dropped on Japan. We dropped the second nuke on Japan a week after the first because they refused to surrender after we dropped the first one.

Imagine how history would be different if any one of the three nukes had failed to go off.

16 posted on 06/08/2015 3:06:26 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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“....If they do not now accept our terms, they can expect a rain of ruin from the air the likes never seen before on earth...” The best part of Harry Truman’s great speech just after the first nuke went ka-boom on their asses. The Japs STILL had not had enough tho, no uncle from ‘em so.......we fed ‘em number 2!


17 posted on 06/08/2015 3:09:57 PM PDT by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a great life!)
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To: SkyDancer
Read the book: The Making Of The Atomic Bomb by Richard Rhodes.

Excellent book. Highly recommended.

18 posted on 06/08/2015 3:10:40 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: NorthMountain
Little Boy was a uranium gun device. Fat Man and the Trinity device were both plutonium implosion devices.

Little Boy was the last one we used, so it was an untested design until we dropped it on Nagasaki.

19 posted on 06/08/2015 3:11:00 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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To: StormPrepper
Documents recently discovered and Japanese scientist acknowledge that Japan had a nuclear weapons program in WW2. The Japanese had made big strides toward creating their own atomic bomb.

This information is covered in the books "The Making of the Atomic Bomb", and "Dark Sun, the Making of the Hydrogen bomb" both by Richard Rhodes.

The Japanese program wasn't going anywhere. If I recall correctly, they were trying to use a diffusion process for isotope separation and they were completely unaware of certain peculiar attributes of these particular compounds. (Uranium Hexafloride, I think.)

The enrichment device wasn't working at all, and the Japanese scientists were getting very worried about their lack of Progress. (One did not disappoint the Emperor in those days.)

Fortunately for them, a mysterious fire somehow occurred and burned the whole apparatus to the ground.

I used to have a Fire Marshall friend. He used to tell me "The only buildings that burn, are the ones that need to burn. "

In any case, the Japanese bomb was never a threat, and neither was the German effort. There is some evidence to indicate that Werner Heisenberg was either foot dragging or deliberately sabotaging the German effort.

We had that weapon all to ourselves except for the spies in our government shipping our research over to the Soviets.

Klaus Fuchs should have been shot.

20 posted on 06/08/2015 3:11:25 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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