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Why Windows 10 Will Be 'The Last Version Of Windows' According to Microsoft
Forbes ^ | 05/08/2015 | Gordon Kelly

Posted on 05/08/2015 3:24:04 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

The Internet woke up to a shock this morning. Microsoft MSFT +2.18% has used its Ignite 2015 conference to declare Windows 10 will be “the last version of Windows” . The reaction has been predictably alarmist, but what exactly does it mean and is this really the end for Windows as we know it?

First some context. The statement came from Microsoft employee Jerry Nixon, a self proclaimed ‘developer evangelist’ who stated: “Right now we’re releasing Windows 10, and because Windows 10 is the last version of Windows, we’re all still working on Windows 10.”

If this sounds strange, Microsoft didn’t help. The company today stepped forward to defend Nixon’s comment to The Verge saying it was “reflective” of the company’s opinion. So what is going on? Is Windows 10 really the end?

It’s Windows, But Not Like You Know It

The simplistic response is: No. Windows is not going anywhere. What is now clearly and undeniably changing, however, is how Microsoft will brand, develop, update and expect us to pay for Windows after Windows 10.

“Windows will be delivered as a service bringing new innovations and updates in an ongoing manner, with continuous value for our consumer and business customers,” explained Microsoft in its full statement to the Verge. “We aren’t speaking to future branding at this time, but customers can be confident Windows 10 will remain up-to-date and power a variety of devices from PCs to phones to Surface Hub to HoloLens and Xbox. We look forward to a long future of Windows innovations.”

Extract the marketing speak and what the future appears to be is ‘Windows’ – no version number, just ‘Windows’.

(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: microsoft; windows; windows10; windowspinglist
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To: tacticalogic

Only need one Server! ;-)


61 posted on 05/08/2015 6:34:52 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: entropy12
So I do not even have a way to upgrade to Windows 7 which is good. I do not want to buy an external CD drive just for Windows upgrade.

Windows USB/DVD Download Tool -Free

62 posted on 05/08/2015 6:35:11 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: tacticalogic

OH, email server?

Found this:

https://forums.cpanel.net/threads/exchange-killer-opengroupware-org.14062/

There is already an Exchange killer available. Has been for years. Lotus Notes with Lotus Domino.

Very mature, very stable, used widely AND runs on Linux too.

Check it out, you’ll be impressed. Of course... it’s not free. But compared to Exchange, it’s a deal. No OS license fees...

cPanel.net Support Ticket Number:


63 posted on 05/08/2015 6:38:42 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: tacticalogic

“A lot of it on the server side is going back to the command line, it just isn’t DOS any more”

Is that really true? It makes sense to me because it’s so much easier to implement a command-line interface than a GUI interface, and command-line commands can be put into a batch file.

Ironically, a command interface can be easier to understand that a GUI one. Is GUI and old fashioned word?

Having said that, there are wonderful programs out there that could be done no other way than via GUI.


64 posted on 05/08/2015 6:41:50 PM PDT by cymbeline
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To: dennisw

“Office 2000”
Now that’s a good blast from the past. Worked well for me, too.


65 posted on 05/08/2015 6:46:18 PM PDT by Carriage Hill ( Some days you're the windshield, and some days you're just the bug.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Hey Rocky wanna see me pull a rabbit outa my hat...


66 posted on 05/08/2015 7:03:13 PM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: Texas Fossil
There is VERY LITTLE that there is not a satisfactory Linux substitute for.

I a, running Windows 10 technical preview not (with Classic Shell of course), and i guess they would call me a power user, as i usually have about 100 tabs open and many documents and engage in various tweaks, But as my main PC has a HW problem, likely the mobo, I would like to use a Linux distro as the main OS on the rig i am not using. I have tried every major and some minor distros, and i do run Xbuntu on an old laptop with XP, which is mainly an audio player.

But i find Linux often lacks ways of doing things that are easy in windows (in some distros you cannot even right click on an icon in the application menu and find the location). Many even give me less freedom by preventing me from having full control over non-system files without having sudo something (which I forget) each time. It also lacks equivalents to key apps i really want to use.

One is AutoHotKey , a among other things the ability to remap certain keys is quite limited (help forums offer various incomplete attempts). The attempts at equivalents (autokey, etc.) lack development and help.

Another is Phone Try free which logs each landline phone call thru the modem, as well enables you to zap telemarketers.

Another is T-Clock, which enables seconds and other options.

And Right Click extende r, which enables easily adding functionality to right click menus (both should be standard in Windows)

Then there is the only word processor i have found which under Windows enables autopasting what you copy into a document, and which saves me much time each month.

There can also be the extensive work i have had trying to configure a no so old printer to work. Or wireless connections.

Add to that the lack of legal multimedia codecs (even if others scoff at that), though Fluendo will sell them, yet only for one PC.

Bible software is also much lacking, but i can run BP Bible under Wine.

Also, downloading and installing Linux software such is not as easy as Windows, and can be problematic (missing dependencies, etc. Finding what version such as Flash works with what distro, etc.) And with only two viruses in over 15 years of heavy use, thanks be to God, i have not found Windows a problem due to rogue software.

But Firefox and LibreOffice work well, which are major apps.

And i hope to see more development of Linux into a better alternative to Windows.

67 posted on 05/08/2015 7:32:34 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: tophat9000
Do you agree or disagree that the metro gui was the reason for the unpopularity of windows 8 with the consumer customers and business customers...

About the first thing i did after installing the W/8 preview was to search for freeware that would replace the Metro UI, and easily found Classic Shell . I use it under Window 10 preview as well, as it is a far better start menu i think. Start 8 i guess does the same or more.

Now if Windows would be more like Firefox/Pale Moon/Waterfox, and enable tabbed browsing in the File explorer, and Colorful Tabs, saving sessions, etc which the extensions offer.

68 posted on 05/08/2015 7:49:45 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Texas Fossil
Dude, that thread is 12 years old.

We're an IBM mainframe shop. I'm sure somebody got a sales pitch and a price quote from IBM.

Exchange 2000/2003 was the first iteration of a major rewrite to become AD integrated, and wasn't particularly polished. But getting the AD integration was worth it.

Before that we were running Exchange 5.5, which had it's own directory that you had to synch with AD. Some information was kept on the domain controller and associated with the use. Mailbox specific information (smtp addresses, quotas, rules, etc.) was kept on the mailbox server. You associated users to mailboxes by synching user data from AD into the mail servers LDAP directory. Which doesn't really sound too bad until you try to scale it to a dozen sites. There's replication latency among the domain controllers, compounded by replication latency between the DC and the mail servers, and if the mail server directories start to get too far out of synch with each other weird things start to happen to your mail routing. This is a stupid way to handle identity management in an enterprise email system.

We had just finished getting ourselves out from under that mess, and weren't about to go back to it to save the cost of a dozen server licenses.

69 posted on 05/08/2015 8:03:46 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Corel had a Linux distro back in the day....it folded into xandros. I ran both at diff times, but never tried Draw with it - not sure if they ever ported Draw..


70 posted on 05/08/2015 8:20:05 PM PDT by HonkyTonkMan
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To: cymbeline
Is that really true? It makes sense to me because it’s so much easier to implement a command-line interface than a GUI interface, and command-line commands can be put into a batch file.

Yes it is, and I speak from experience. Only it's not batch files any more. Microsoft created an scripting shell called PowerShell that is the management platform. It was created by Jeffrey Snover. In the early days it was called Monad, and was considered "experimental". At one point they wanted to kill the project. But Snover had a vision, and agreed to take a demotion and a pay cut in order to keep working on it.

He was made the lead architect of the server division when they started development of the 2012 server, and he's still there. Now server management is designed and implemented in PowerShell, and then GUIs for common management tasks are layered on top of that.

In some of the GUIs, selecting an action also displays the underlying PowerShell code that's going to be executed to make that change. You can do it once in the GUI, and it'll write the PowerShell code for you, and you can copy and paste that into a script to automate the process.

71 posted on 05/08/2015 8:27:03 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: SubMareener
Only need one Server! ;-)

Famous last words...

72 posted on 05/08/2015 8:28:41 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: I cannot think of a name
Here's an oldie but goodie:

GOVT.SYS CORRUPTED, RUN GUN.COM? (Y/Y)
GUN.COM NOT FOUND, EXECUTE BASEBALL.BAT? (Y/Y)

>B-)
73 posted on 05/08/2015 8:53:15 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Mom I miss you! (8-20-1938 to 11-18-2013) Cancer sucks)
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To: SeekAndFind

Windows rental coming.


74 posted on 05/08/2015 10:17:56 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: daniel1212

Very useful link...thanks a bunch daniel1212.

I tried to search on google but did not find the relevant info.


75 posted on 05/08/2015 10:56:22 PM PDT by entropy12 (I hope senator Cruz is lot less abrasive and snide than some of his supporter FRiends.)
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To: entropy12
I tried to search on google but did not find the relevant info.

To use, you could sign up for the Windows Insider Program, and then download Download Windows 10 Insider Preview ISO - Microsoft ...

Then put a USB flash drive in that you do not mind being formatted, and launch the tool. Then choose the flash drive and navigate to the WTP (Windows 10 Preview) iso, and choose it install it on the USB drive .

The license on that is good until about Nov.

As explained here , to use the USB drive to install WTP, either go in your BIOS (usually F2 or Del key during boot) and put the USB at the top for boot priority, or tap the F key that provides a menu of what to boot from (maybe F9, F11, F12). Google your mobo to find out.

It is best to install WTP on a spare drive, with your present HD unplugged until after it is installed. Then choose to boot from the HD with WTP on it. See here on that.

Use it for good!

76 posted on 05/09/2015 3:59:57 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy
Kids today don't realize in the "old" days you'd turn on a PC and all you would see is:

C:\

77 posted on 05/09/2015 4:03:26 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

Excel 2007 seems to slow me down. Not impressed.


78 posted on 05/09/2015 12:56:38 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Texas Fossil

I always liked AmiPro....


79 posted on 05/09/2015 12:57:50 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: 9thLife

I was attracted to the vision of BeOS....


80 posted on 05/09/2015 1:01:05 PM PDT by Paladin2
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