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Even Small Businesses Are Jumping on the Robot Bandwagon
NBC News ^ | Elaine Pofeldt

Posted on 05/03/2015 7:52:03 AM PDT by Enlightened1

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To: RoosterRedux

With 50% of the population on some level of welfare I don’t think one needs work to have meaning in their life. I know that’s not where my meaning comes from. Work is what I do to have the money to get meaning at home with the wife. And of course people who want to do stuff will find stuff to do, hobbies that used to be something you found time to do around work will now be what people do.


41 posted on 05/03/2015 9:18:23 AM PDT by discostu (Bobby, I'm sorry you have a head like a potato.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

We’ll all be teachers, cops, and social workers...Young people today see the writing on the wall, and are trying to jump on the government job bandwagon en masse - but the disappearing middle class has no money to pay them, so a bunch of young people with criminal justice, sociology and education degrees are working at Wal-Mart.


42 posted on 05/03/2015 9:35:40 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Enlightened1

They will just sell their products (as they already manufacture them) where the majority of consumers are: Asia.

This article indicates it is unusual that small businesses are looking at automating; it is probably most urgent for them (with less leeway to run inefficiently before shutting down).


43 posted on 05/03/2015 9:38:35 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Enlightened1

Amen. Same here about Jesus.


44 posted on 05/03/2015 9:39:13 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (WSC: The truth is incontrovertible; malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end...)
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To: RegulatorCountry
OK, you tell me, what is the country going to do with all the people who will no longer have a salable skill to offer due to robotics?

They will have to acquire new skills.

45 posted on 05/03/2015 9:42:25 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Doctrine doesn't change. The trick is to find a way around it.)
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To: discostu
I retired once a long time ago and found that not working drove me nuts. I am now semi-retired and work from home.

I like to work, even if its just in the yard or cooking. Feels good like exercise.

I guess there are 2 kinds of work. The kind you do for the money but don't really like and the kind you do because you love it and the money is a cherry on top.

46 posted on 05/03/2015 9:44:42 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (WSC: The truth is incontrovertible; malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end...)
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To: Jeff Chandler
They will have to acquire new skills.

Yep.

In the past a person could have one skill or job for an entire career.

In the near future, we will have to continually retrain for existing jobs (changing) and new positions.

47 posted on 05/03/2015 9:47:53 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (WSC: The truth is incontrovertible; malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end...)
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To: RoosterRedux

due to vagaries of work rules and acquisitions I spent 1 year where I took a week off every other month (not over running accrual) followed by a year where I took a week off every month (use it all). I learned then I could retire in a minute. I spent my days reading books, relaxing at the pool, riding the bike trail, watching movie. It was wonderful. It was a great time to explore me, and the world around me.

I like my job just fine. Love the people, enjoy the work. But I don’t live to work, and I’m glad I don’t. In our modern “version-centric” capitalism most of the work most of us do is rendering what we did last year obsolete. If I drew my life meaning from that I’d kill myself, because there’s only sad life meanings there. Even when I have fully and truly loved my job I’ve always loved away from job more, that’s where life gets interesting.

My wife doesn’t take a lot of time off work. She says it’s because she doesn’t “do nothing” well. And it’s true, half the time she takes off work she gets sick, the other times she’s stacked up a massive to-do list so there’s no time for nothing. I “do nothing” very well, because I can always find something to fill that nothing.


48 posted on 05/03/2015 9:55:57 AM PDT by discostu (Bobby, I'm sorry you have a head like a potato.)
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To: discostu

I wish I were more like you. But I am goal oriented whether I like it or not.


49 posted on 05/03/2015 10:00:39 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (WSC: The truth is incontrovertible; malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end...)
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To: RoosterRedux

Oh I’ve got goals. I just have unimportant goals like “read that book series”.


50 posted on 05/03/2015 10:13:29 AM PDT by discostu (Bobby, I'm sorry you have a head like a potato.)
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To: RegulatorCountry
I don’t see how this can occur without major disruption and dislocation.

Ah, so someone else has also discovered how capitalism works.

Viva Socialism!

51 posted on 05/03/2015 10:13:52 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Is Ted Cruz himself as mean-spirited as the FR 'Click-it or Tick-it' Cruz Contingent?)
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To: discostu

Nice.


52 posted on 05/03/2015 10:38:59 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (WSC: The truth is incontrovertible; malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end...)
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To: ClearCase_guy

A world with “no money” need not be a dystopia. After all, money and prices are simply the most efficient method we’ve found for distributing scarce resources.

Scarcity is and of itself not a good thing, but a bad thing. The problem is that humanity has of necessity been organized since it began to develop organization essentially to divide up scarce resources.

When scarcity disappears, at least for many things, then how do we organize ourselves?

As the most obvious example, gaining access to the world’s knowledge used to be very difficult and expensive. Today it is utterly free. Doesn’t mean we use it any more wisely.


53 posted on 05/03/2015 10:50:15 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: RoosterRedux
In the past a person could have one skill or job for an entire career.

I know the sentiment, but I don't believe that is true. I think we have always had to face change throughout our lives. My father-in-law was planning on being a musician, then WWII came around and made him a sailor, then through his post-war education he became an accountant, and now he's back to being a musician.

My grandfather was raised to be a farmer. The depression forced him into a position to abandon farming for a job with the Rail Road. When he went back to farming, in the few years he was gone, most folks had mechanized and he had to hop on that bandwagon to produce enough to feed the family.

Everyone I know had to make adjustments to keep their careers going. I don't see why this should be any different.

54 posted on 05/03/2015 11:30:21 AM PDT by Stegall Tx (Java, java, java. I need some coffee.)
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To: Enlightened1; TribalPrincess2U; RegulatorCountry
I don’t understand how business will think they will get ahead if there are no jobs no one can buy their products? Law of supply and demand right?

There will be people who will do something useful in the future economy. And then there will be those who produce nothing of use, and who will want to spawn offspring who will also produce nothing of use.

The only way for the first category to survive will be to minimize the numbers of the second category. Hopefully it won't need to be accomplished by the violent extermination of the unproductive.

55 posted on 05/03/2015 11:37:37 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
I do worry, however, about our educational system and our social systems. A lot of people -- a lot -- are really not employable.

Incorrect. A lot of people are not employable because (1) they are not worth the current minimum wage, and (2) the value of the benefits they are eligible for, exceeds the pay they are likely to get in the job market so they have no incentive to acquire marketable skills.

Remove the Welfare State, put people into a "work or die" environment, and unemployment will go down.

56 posted on 05/03/2015 11:44:22 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Stegall Tx
Perhaps I should have said "a few skills or jobs."

Like you I have many new "opportunities" and actually like change. That said, the future is going to require much change (and rapidly) for everyone.

57 posted on 05/03/2015 11:55:47 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (WSC: The truth is incontrovertible; malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end...)
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To: RegulatorCountry; TribalPrincess2U; Enlightened1; RoosterRedux; erlayman; American in Israel; ...

“The pace of change is much more rapid now.”

We probably think that because we’re closer to it in time. But the industrial revolution of the 1800s and the mechanization of the early 1900s were even more of an upheaval with huge migrations from country to cities and workers having to adapt to the change from the natural cylce of farm work to regimented factory work, and nothing to fall back on. I don’t see that same level of upheaval going on today.

Regarding robots and increased automation, we’ve already undergone a massive version of that through outsourcing. The chinese and now vietnamese, cambodian bangladeshans, etc. have essentially acted as “human robots”. In terms of impact on our labor market, they’ve have the same effect as robots would have. Further actual automation, won’t cause any more dislocation than the “human robot” kind.

Regarding jobs... Humans have an infinite number of needs and desires. If you told someone back one hundred years ago that there would be tens of thousand of people working in nail salons, they would laugh at you. And there are many similar products and service that people didn’t envision 100 years ago. We extrapolate a future that is limited by each of our narrow knowledge, imagination, creativity. I have a tremendous amount of faith in humans’ ingenuity, resourcefulness and inventiveness. The guy that said that necessity is the mother of invention is absolutely right. And I would add to that desires.

Jobs are created by entrepreneurs - risk takers with imagination, initiative and courage driven by the profit motive who see unmet needs and desires and are willing to take a chance and try out their ideas. So, it’s very easy to create jobs - create a societal climate that unleashes and applauds entrepreneurship and profits and the optimism that that engenders.

We know how to do that - we used to be that. All it takes to get it back is a leader that believes in that vision and that can boldly paint it so the rest of us will believe it as well.

Another Reagan would do. Cruz is the closest we have.


58 posted on 05/03/2015 12:10:09 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: Enlightened1
Do you know anyone with a knee or hip replacement?

Are they human?

If someone temporarily extends their bodies for convenience are they cyborgs? (Do you drive a car? Ride a bicycle?)

Here's a fun, thought-provoking book:

The Mind's I Fantasies And Reflections On Self & Soul

59 posted on 05/03/2015 1:43:43 PM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: Sherman Logan
A world with “no money” need not be a dystopia.

Money is just a medium of exchange and there will always some kind of medium of exchange for goods and services and other assets.

60 posted on 05/03/2015 2:00:36 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (WSC: The truth is incontrovertible; malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end...)
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