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A 'rough ride' for Baltimore
Clinton Herald ^ | Thursday, April 30, 2015 6:00 am | Clarence Page

Posted on 04/30/2015 11:26:39 AM PDT by Usagi_yo

Some people protest police brutality in ways that only remind us of why we need police. That’s how I feel about the Baltimore rioters who some news reports described as “protestors [SIC].” The label falsely flatters the thugs and hooligans who set fires and attacked police, merchants and journalists after the otherwise respectful funeral on Monday for Freddie Gray, 25, who died under mysterious circumstances in police custody.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy; Health/Medicine; Society
KEYWORDS: baltimore; blackkk; bpd; elijahcummings; maryland; roughride
Clarence Page -- a respected and very experienced journalist pens an OP-ED piece with some uncomfortable facts for the Baltimore Police Department.
1 posted on 04/30/2015 11:26:39 AM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: Usagi_yo
...the Baltimore rioters who some news reports described as “protestors [SIC].” The label falsely flatters the thugs and hooligans

Exactly. I am so sick of hearing most reporters refer to these a--holes as "protesters".

2 posted on 04/30/2015 11:31:03 AM PDT by WayneS (Barack Obama makes Neville Chamberlin look like George Patton.)
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To: Usagi_yo
It won't matter. There will be jack boot lickers who try to use the reprehensible behavior of the protesters to divert for the real point which is that the Police Department screwed up.

Just because other people commit a crime protesting something that happened does not mean that citizens of good conscience should not be MAD and demand immediate and drastic change when government is doing something wrong.

I wonder what the actual numbers of peaceful protesters to rioters were.

As with the Eric Garner case, I really have little sympathy for anyone who doesn't comply with a police directive in public; if the say put your hands up or ‘STOP’, no doing so is very dumb and dangerous. However that has *NOTHING* to do with the fact that some cops are out of control and the bigger problem that supposedly ‘good’ cops won't stop them or report them.

Rioters should be shot, but we citizens have every right to demand that each and every use of force against a citizen by any government agent, anywhere in the USA be independently investigated by some entity that has no connection to the police or any motivation to whitewash facts.

Just a cranky .02

3 posted on 04/30/2015 11:34:57 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegal aliens, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: WayneS

Well yea, when I said I’m biased towards the protesters in a different thread on an ancillary topic I was accused of being biases towards the looters and thugs.

I hope you read the whole article because it discusses multiple lawsuits and million dollar settlements from ‘rough rides’.


4 posted on 04/30/2015 11:35:09 AM PDT by Usagi_yo (Give me liberty or give me a cash settlement.)
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To: RedStateRocker

We are of like mind.


5 posted on 04/30/2015 11:36:14 AM PDT by Usagi_yo (Give me liberty or give me a cash settlement.)
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To: WayneS
I Don't Think They were referred to as Protestors back in the 1960's




6 posted on 04/30/2015 11:37:09 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: MeshugeMikey

You do understand that by posting a doctored photo (and I’m not talking about the juxtaposition of dates) whatever point you were trying to make just went into foul territory.


7 posted on 04/30/2015 11:40:55 AM PDT by Usagi_yo (Give me liberty or give me a cash settlement.)
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To: Usagi_yo
I hope you read the whole article because it discusses multiple lawsuits and million dollar settlements from ‘rough rides’.

Yes, I did. There have been at least three settlements with victims of 'rough rides' by the Baltimore police.

But what does that have to do with whether or not rioting, looting thugs should be called "protesters"?

8 posted on 04/30/2015 11:49:33 AM PDT by WayneS (Barack Obama makes Neville Chamberlin look like George Patton.)
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To: Usagi_yo

You do realize that when you accuse someone of doctoring a photo without determining whether they actually did so, whatever point you were trying to make just went into foul territory, right?

For the record, that is NOT a doctored photo.

That is the cover for the issue of Time Magazine dated May 11, 2015.

Hint: You might want to check their web site before replying.


9 posted on 04/30/2015 11:54:40 AM PDT by WayneS (Barack Obama makes Neville Chamberlin look like George Patton.)
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To: RedStateRocker

I agree with you totally. The cops, if they indeed caused Gray’s death, are no less guilty regardless of the behavior of the rioters (I won’t call them protesters), the length of Gray’s rap sheet, whatever crime Gray did or did not commit to warrant his arrest or any other factor.

The guidelines for the use of legal force definitely don’t apply in this case. Gray did run, but he was apprehended without the use of lethal force. At the time of his death, he apparently was handcuffed and thoroughly subdued by the police and was not posing a threat to the officers. I don’t know if the police caused his death, but it seems pretty clear cut to me that if they did, it is not justifiable. Cases like the Michael Brown shooting are far different from this one; that one was justifiable as self defense. This one certainly seems to not be justifiable.


10 posted on 04/30/2015 11:55:09 AM PDT by stremba
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To: Usagi_yo

Well, apart from the bottle of Panther Whizz, Ale, that is..


11 posted on 04/30/2015 11:56:59 AM PDT by WayneS (Barack Obama makes Neville Chamberlin look like George Patton.)
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To: RedStateRocker

I also think that Hilary’s idea of having all police wear body cameras is a very good idea. (A stopped clock is right twice a day!) I can’t imagine why any good cop would not support this idea; it could save them all kinds of trouble whenever they have to use lethal force. I certainly understand why bad cops would have a problem with it, though.


12 posted on 04/30/2015 11:57:09 AM PDT by stremba
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To: WayneS

I doubt ANYONE on FR thinks they should be called “protesters”, at least not the rioters. But discussing them takes the focus off of the far more important point: The cops are out of control and a danger to citizens and something must happen and happen soon, even if there were 100 riots a night for a year or not a single one it makes no difference to the fact that police misbehavior is a symptom of something very bad for the Republic, rioters or no rioters, thugs or no thugs.

The point of the article is that this has happened before, not that rioters are scum.


13 posted on 04/30/2015 12:17:38 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegal aliens, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: Usagi_yo
This is the second time in my life when I've agreed with Clarence Page. Normally he looks at everything through the prism of race. Every problem of Blacks is Whitey's fault. This time he seems to have gotten it right. Let's hope this is the start of a trend.
14 posted on 05/01/2015 12:29:32 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney ( book, RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY, available from Amazon)
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To: WayneS

Oh, haven’t you heard? Even “protests” has been watered down to “rallies”...so, the people are not even protestors anymore, they’re basically cheerleaders now.


15 posted on 05/01/2015 12:31:37 PM PDT by uncitizen (I'm Ready for Teddy!)
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