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WEEKLY GARDEN THREAD, VOLUME 16 APRIL 17, 2015
freerepublic | April 17, 2015 | greeneyes

Posted on 04/17/2015 1:08:22 PM PDT by greeneyes

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To: dware

We also harvested the first of our asparagus of the year today. About 15 nice stalks (I guest that’s what they’re called.) I’ll buy some from the grocery to blend with to get a nice dish with burgers on the grill tomorrow.


41 posted on 04/17/2015 3:53:17 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks ("If he were working for the other side, what would he be doing differently ?")
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To: greeneyes; Marcella

I broke down and went looking for veggies in the garden. And with everything, I'm counting calories. So the volunteer asparagus and cilantro and green onion was only about 20 calories.

After I cooked it tender (no teef) in water, I sautéed it in 1 tablespoon of butter. Cough... that was 102 calories. So that little plate was about 122 calories. And very satisfying. I wish I had more asparagus.

/johnny

42 posted on 04/17/2015 4:13:05 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Every thing is better with butter (or bacon grease)!


43 posted on 04/17/2015 4:19:16 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Le//t Freedom Ring.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz; greeneyes
EQAndyBuzz :" My 4x4’s are full of beautiful vegetable plants. Not one veggie to be found.
I was hoping for something different but it looks like another year shot.
Will give it another 30 days then I will rip it all up, remove the soil and try again from scratch. "

I agree with greeneyes - sounds like too much nitrogen. That will get you leafey greens, and not much else.
Have you ever done a soil analysis, like thru Co-Operative extension ?? (N/P/K or soil Ph {acidity/ alkaline}}
Also , do you germanate seeds indoors , or do direct seed planting , or start with established plants ?, or plants from the store ?
Before you remove all the soil, do a study on the soil first, and minimize your investment expense.

44 posted on 04/17/2015 4:19:59 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: MtnClimber

Those are beautiful pictures on your home page. I grow some things in front of my patio doors which face south west.

That gives me lemons, peppers, cherry tomatoes, spinach and herbs during the long winter - just a few fresh things to add to meals gives me a positive mental boost.


45 posted on 04/17/2015 4:23:48 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Le//t Freedom Ring.)
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To: MomwithHope

That works too. I am always in too much of a hurry to get them in the freezer, hence I just wash, quarter, vacumm pack the bag and freeze. Slicing into strips and olive oil comes later as I am using them.


46 posted on 04/17/2015 4:25:58 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Le//t Freedom Ring.)
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To: Qiviut
I just happened to remember-for some reason hubby has been able to grow the yellow crook neck summer squash prolifically the last couple of years, but at the same time all the other stuff almost zip.
47 posted on 04/17/2015 4:28:26 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Le//t Freedom Ring.)
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To: NormsRevenge

I can not stand stuffed peppers. TOO MUSHY. I like the stuffing, but not the texture of the peppers. I like my peppers raw in salads or mixed into Asian stir fry or fajitas. I even like to dip peppers into various dips and eat them that way.

I chop them up very small to put into chili where I like the extra flavor, but again, don’t like to chew detectable mush. Small just slides on down.


48 posted on 04/17/2015 4:32:13 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Le//t Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

We made our first salad with lettuce from our raised beds. Just transplanted some various mints and herbs into the beds. Forgot the sage, so it goes in tomorrow. I have another couple of trays of herbs, perennial flowers and tomatoes doing well. The toms were from last year’s seed so I planted them heavy in the starters and I swear they all germinated. Have to thin them out tomorrow.
Lost one transplanted blackberry to the wind. We live at the Northeast end of a valley and the wind is brutal. The other one looks awesome though!
All the fruit trees came back well. We planted an almond seedling last year. It is incredible. Never seen any tree take off like it has.


49 posted on 04/17/2015 4:51:44 PM PDT by ExpatGator (I hate Illinois Nazis!)
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To: greeneyes

It is no longer springtime in Florida. It is now official SUMMER! LOL!


50 posted on 04/17/2015 4:51:53 PM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: Qiviut
Qiviut :" 1. Anybody grown spaghetti squash? HD had some plants & I’m debating whether to try them ... I like to cook with spaghetti squash."

I have grown spaghetti squash and found them to be easily grown.
I would reccomend them to ANYONE who enjoys pasta (but not the calories) , and wants to loose weight .
The squash interior fibers are long and elongated, and can be easily separated after cooking ,by using a dinner fork .
The vegetable fruits lack any specific squash flavor, taste bland by themselves, but take well to whatever well-seasoned spaghetti sause you use.
I averaged 3-4 squash per wandering plant,sometmes more, and found them to be reasonably productive depending on rainfall. A good source of vitamins and minerals.
When I tired of them or ran out of sause, we used the extra squash, split, uncooked, and then forked the interior as a supplement to chicken feed,
and the chickens loved the fibers , and the seeds.

51 posted on 04/17/2015 5:01:28 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Is there a way to balance out the nitrogen? Or is this something that can’t be fixed?


52 posted on 04/17/2015 5:03:01 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (two if by van, one if by broom)
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To: KosmicKitty

I throw a bag of mushroom compost in about a month before I start planting. I turn everything, put in slug b’gone and then when I am ready to plant I turn the soli again. No fertilizer.

My gardens started with Mel’s mix. Nothing ever came from it. I planted roses on the side of the house, hoping to attract bees.


53 posted on 04/17/2015 5:06:28 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (two if by van, one if by broom)
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To: greeneyes

I hear ya .. But.. It just brings back memories.. It took a while for my taste buds to catch up.


54 posted on 04/17/2015 5:09:09 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: greeneyes

I’ve tried it that way but they come out too soggy somehow. A light saute gets some of the moisture out and the oil helps seal.


55 posted on 04/17/2015 5:16:09 PM PDT by MomwithHope (Please support efforts in your state for an Article 5 convention.)
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To: dware

Sometimes I add onions in with the peppers. I also do this with extra banana peppers, the ones I don’t pickle.


56 posted on 04/17/2015 5:18:19 PM PDT by MomwithHope (Please support efforts in your state for an Article 5 convention.)
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To: greeneyes; JRandomFreeper
greeneyes:" Our first year, we got zukes, cukes, watermelons, and cantaloupes. Not much after that.
Once in a while cukes or zukes manage to make a few, but haven't figured out the difference."

I would suspect the most likely problem is nematodes in the soil, as the curcubit family are notoriously impacted by them.
Absent a soil test, I would consider Johnny's method of soil sterilization this summer in a 20 X 20 foot section of tilled soil ,
covered with 6 mil transparent plastic until the soil hits 140 - 160 degrees. That would eliminate nematodes in time for a late summer planting.

57 posted on 04/17/2015 5:25:46 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Thanks! Will have to give them a try .... it would be nice to grow my own instead of buying them.


58 posted on 04/17/2015 5:37:36 PM PDT by Qiviut ( One of the most delightful things about a garden is the anticipation it provides. ~W.E. Johns)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
I used a season of peanuts (with appropriate microbes) to bring up Nitrogen where my garden needs it.

I don't like artificial methods that can damage the beneficial microbes. The peanuts seem to work. And rotating crops is biblical. ;)

/johnny

59 posted on 04/17/2015 5:47:15 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
EQAndyBuzz:" Is there a way to balance out the nitrogen? Or is this something that can’t be fixed?"

Nitrogen will leech out with an abundance of water
Personally , I would add compost and organic matter such as leaves , even wood chips as the nitrogen would be absorbed and would assist in the breakdown of the chips.
Wood chips would elminate this years use for root crops as they would ,in all likelyhood , be deformed growing around the chips.
Plants that demand high nitrogen such as corn , soybeans, leeks , and large green leafey vegetables like lettuces, do well in a high nitrogen envireonment.
Also , consider buying already well established plants like tomatoes, peppers,borcolli from a garden store, although you may have to remove 'sucker growth' as the plant matures.
Please let me know how it is working out for you as the season progresses as it is rare that someone has too much nitrogen in the soil .

60 posted on 04/17/2015 5:51:04 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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