Odd, considering a few months earlier he carried 22 of 25 states with 55% of the popular vote.
Posted on 04/14/2015 6:57:32 AM PDT by Paisan
On this date in 1865, Good Friday, Abraham Lincoln was shot at Ford's Theatre in Washington, D.C. The 16th president died the next morning.
Odd, considering a few months earlier he carried 22 of 25 states with 55% of the popular vote.
I’m not going to discuss it.
I now know he was an opportunistic tyrant that suspended the bill of rights and ultimately destroyed the concept of the United States -- that States were UNITED and INDEPENDENT.
May he burn in hell.
I think too that in the early days of the war when Lee’s Armies were right outside Washington DC that Lincoln was MOST worried about losing it ALL more so than saving the union.
I wouldn't either if I were arguing your position. It is unsupportable.
I stated a fact, not an opinion.
BTW, Booth is the model early movies used as the villain and later on in cartoons. I think to this day he is still used as a villain in comics.
And the “house divided” speech? Obviously, keeping the Union together was, by far, the primary aim of the war. But to pretend that slavery had little/nothing to do with the war is simply disingenous, and ignores the very reasons that keeping the Union together was even necessary.
I think the states that pulled out of the Union because they didnt like the way the election of 1860 turned out, and were afraid that they could no longer force the entirety of the union to continue to support their force servitude of human beings, shoulders the blame.
Not to mention that most of the secessionist conventions were wholly undemocratic and used intimidation to get the results they wanted, nor was Lincoln even pushing to end slavery!
Secession is a legitimate instrument that was wasted on the idiots of the CSA who couldn’t even string together a coherent reason to explain why they were supposedly being oppressed.
But, he is now recognized as the country’s greatest president, having stayed the course in keeping the Union together.
Washington is and will remain our greatest president. IMO
Hear! Hear!
In the manner that Barack Obama has no intention of interfering with American's right to own guns or bake non-gay wedding cakes.
The President has the ability to cause problems for people if he wants to, and I think no one doubted that he would, despite his assurances to the contrary.
This indicates that you are well aware that the secession of the Southern states was unjustified and was nothing but a hissy fit for losing the election.
I don't particularly care what a people's reasons are for wanting to leave. The Declaration of Independence tells me they can leave for whatever reason suits them.
That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
And you probably consider Federalist George Washington a proto-Confederate.
Well, He and Robert Lee were both Virginians fighting for independence from a larger and more powerful Union, so I guess if the shoe fits...
was well guided thereafter.
Yes, true. If you choose to ignore the part about it falling apart in 1860...
That goes without saying. But second place to George Washington certainly isn't bad.
You will not convince me and I will not convince you.
It seriously blows my mind that the most ardent defenders of the CSA just keep leaving out that the reasons they presented for their quickie secession would not pass the laugh test when you read them!
Nevermind that those very states heaped real oppression on the northern states by forcing them via the same central government that they profess to have been so tyrannical, to allow armed men to cross into their territory to hunt down the human slaves that ran away to freedom, with no recourse. Even stipulating that the local authorities had to help them!
Are you accusing him of deliberate double dealing? Even so, August 22, is well after Irvin McDowell set out for Richmond with orders to stop Independence, not slavery.
You can't make "Abolition of Slavery" a reason for going to war, after the fact.
No, I leave that to you.
Even so, August 22, is well after Irvin McDowell set out for Richmond with orders to stop Independence, not slavery.
Yes, by more than a year.
You can't make "Abolition of Slavery" a reason for going to war, after the fact.
Nor have I ever said it was. Slavery was the Southern motivation for their war. It was not the Northern one.
That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
Did you miss the bolded parts? The Declaration of Independence does not justify leaving "for whatever reason suits them." It justifies leaving when a government becomes "destructive of [the] ends" of "securing" the unalienable rights enumerated in the Declaration - including life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
The states that seceded from the Union seceded for exactly the opposite reason - they seceded in order to restrict the rights of life, liberty and pursuit of happiness for the millions of slaves who were held in bondage in their states.
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