Posted on 04/14/2015 6:57:32 AM PDT by Paisan
On this date in 1865, Good Friday, Abraham Lincoln was shot at Ford's Theatre in Washington, D.C. The 16th president died the next morning.
Kennedy had a car named Lincoln, and Lincoln had a horse named Jack.
155th anniversary of the Pony Express
“April is the cruelest month”.
A wide array of “events” occurred in April.
The Titanic sunk, FDR died, MLK assassinated, American Civil war began and ended, the US entered WW1, Bay of Pigs, Battle of Lexington & Concord, Clinton & Reno burn 82 to death at Waco, Hitler dies, Chernobyl, the Mutiny on the Bounty etc., etc., etc...
Revisionist history rolls on.
Yes it does. How is Lincoln a Hero, yet George III a villain? Weren't they both trying to keep the Union together?
0bama and his minions look to Lincoln as a justification to repress his opposition.
The South would have eventually have abolished slavery, and there were even some black troops, promised manumission, that fought for the South.
Lincoln and the first civil war established the nation as an indissolvable union. In our current state of affairs, the established and inflexible principle of a perpetual union is hazardous because the only means of separation necessitates violence. Without secession, and without the dim prospect of meaningful reformation of the government and constitutional restoration, the only legal option for relief is leaving the country- not an easy prospect for most citizens. I would also argue that the legal right and possibility of secession acts as a check to abusive central government. Along with abolishing slavery, Lincoln abolished any reasonable possibility of amicable and peaceful secession.
The weight of history is heavy, and Lincoln’s legacy has solidified the primacy of the central government; a government today that abuses its citizens in ways that would probably be inconceivable to Lincoln.
Well, you clearly missed your grammar lessons, so I guess you "must of" missed something in your neoconfederate history lessons as well. Perhaps you missed the lesson about Lincoln's Cooper Union address (which was nominally directed at the expansion of slavery in the territories, but also squarely condemned slavery as an institution). Or maybe you missed the Lincoln-Douglas debates (or did you think that his debates with Douglas in 1858 were irrelevant to his campaign against Douglas in 1860?). Or maybe you missed Lincoln's "house divided" speech. Or maybe you missed the various "Declarations of Causes" by the seceeding states, each of which (hmmmm, if Lincoln was pro-slavery, I wonder why the states would secede upon his election). Must I go on?
Is that official?
For me, no one stands above Washington---the man who helped bring the Union into being in the first place.
Killed about 800,000 (8,000,000 in ratio to toady’s pop.) maimed many more all for some abstraction called “the Union”, in other words, big government. He slaughtered for big government. Obama not quite that bad yet.
That is incorrect. Lincoln was not going to eradicate chattel slavery. That didn't become an aim of the war until a year and a half into it.
This is called "moving the goal posts." If you are going to criticize others, you need to get your facts accurate.
Yes it does. How is Lincoln a Hero, yet George III a villain? Weren’t they both trying to keep the Union together?
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One was a nation, the other was an empire.
I would save the Union. I would save it the shortest way under the Constitution. The sooner the national authority can be restored; the nearer the Union will be "the Union as it was." If there be those who would not save the Union, unless they could at the same time save slavery, I do not agree with them. If there be those who would not save the Union unless they could at the same time destroy slavery, I do not agree with them. My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union. I shall do less whenever I shall believe what I am doing hurts the cause, and I shall do more whenever I shall believe doing more will help the cause. I shall try to correct errors when shown to be errors; and I shall adopt new views so fast as they shall appear to be true views.
I have here stated my purpose according to my view of official duty; and I intend no modification of my oft-expressed personal wish that all men everywhere could be free.[42]
A. Lincoln
And *THAT* is exactly why the Civil war is still relevant to today. Lincoln took us away from the natural law expressed in the Declaration of Independence, and put us on the path to Federal dominance of everything we do, and No, we don't have a right to divorce.
The weight of history is heavy, and Lincoln’s legacy has solidified the primacy of the central government; a government today that abuses its citizens in ways that would probably be inconceivable to Lincoln.
The road to Hell is paved with good intentions. Just so the legacy of Lincoln.
Preserving the union, yes. Eradicating slavery, no.
Some people have his date of death on the 14th but like you said he died the next morning on the 15th which is his official date of death. Either way, a Republican President who was really really hated by a Democrat actor. My oh my, some things never change.
And this is the plain truth. Even if you believe all good things about Lincoln, there can be no denying that without Washington there never would have been a United States. Not only did he win the fight to create the nation, but by his example the nation was well guided thereafter.
While substitute teaching a class of lower-ability high school students, I showed a movie about Lincoln. To try to get the kids to pay attention to the movie, I told them there would be a quiz afterwards. I quickly made it up as I watched the film.
One of the questions was, "President Lincoln was shot on which holiday? a)Shrove Tuesday b)Good Friday c)Maundy Thursday d)Super Bowl Sunday. Believe it or not, one student chose d).
And that justifies the one and condemns the other why?
Thank you for admitting that Lincoln was not an abolitionist and had no intention whatsoever of interfering with slavery where it already existed. This indicates that you are well aware that the secession of the Southern states was unjustified and was nothing but a hissy fit for losing the election.
I bet you have the gall to call yourself a Republican. And you probably consider Federalist George Washington a proto-Confederate.
You are aware that when Lincoln wrote that letter, August 22, 1862, he had already presented a draft of the Emancipation Proclamation to his cabinet?
and to prove what I said, read Lincoln’s own explanation in his response to Horace Greeley:
http://www.civilwarhome.com/lincolngreeley.htm
“If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that.”
So as you say, not so confusing at all.
Well said.
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