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Virginia city official under fire after claiming that God, not government, ended slavery
National Post ^ | March 15, 2015 | Caitlin Gibson

Posted on 03/15/2015 3:13:24 PM PDT by rickmichaels

A Leesburg, Virginia, Town Council member drew criticism from the president of the Loudoun County branch of the NAACP after stating that God — not government — was solely responsible for freeing America’s slaves and correcting racial injustice.

“It’s the . . . hand of God touching the hearts of man that will bring unity within diversity, it’s not government,” Leesburg council member Thomas Dunn said at a public meeting Tuesday.

Dunn spoke after a well-attended public hearing at which dozens of Loudoun County residents urged the town council to approve the creation of the Leesburg Diversity Commission.

Dunn abstained from the vote to create the citizen-led commission, which will meet monthly and will be tasked with improving outreach and communication with minority communities, encouraging minorities to apply to available town government jobs and fostering an inclusive environment in Leesburg.

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: leesburg; thomasdunn; virginia
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1 posted on 03/15/2015 3:13:24 PM PDT by rickmichaels
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To: rickmichaels
“It’s the . . . hand of God touching the hearts of man that will bring unity within diversity, it’s not government,”

Rev. Jeremiah Wright, you're response?

2 posted on 03/15/2015 3:15:49 PM PDT by 9thLife ("Life is a military endeavor..." -- Pope Francis)
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To: rickmichaels
“It’s the . . . hand of God touching the hearts of man that will bring unity within diversity, it’s not government,”

Rev. Jeremiah Wright, you're response?

3 posted on 03/15/2015 3:15:49 PM PDT by 9thLife ("Life is a military endeavor..." -- Pope Francis)
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To: 9thLife
great -- misspelled and double posted.

Rev. Jeremiah Wright, your response?

4 posted on 03/15/2015 3:16:21 PM PDT by 9thLife ("Life is a military endeavor..." -- Pope Francis)
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To: rickmichaels

Liberals believe that all things come from the government.


5 posted on 03/15/2015 3:20:12 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (True followers of Christ emulate Christ. True followers of Mohammed emulate Mohammed.)
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To: rickmichaels

Sorry, but the man’s a moron.

He holds pretty much exactly the same position RE Lee held about slavery, that it could only be ended over some looonngg period of time by God working on the hearts of men.

Lee found out there was a somewhat more direct, forceful and rapid method.

The man is also an idiot for assuming that government action, including war, simply cannot possibly be an outworking of God’s will. I refer him to:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpZ3jPMM5Ac

Which is not to say that the “diversity” policies he was arguing against are a good idea. Only that his argument against them is a poor one.


6 posted on 03/15/2015 3:30:07 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Blood of Tyrants
A lot of things "snap together" when you realize there are people to whom the state is god.
(And a lot of politics becomes clear when you consider reigning in the state would exactly be weakening these people's god.)
7 posted on 03/15/2015 3:31:53 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: rickmichaels

BTW, the president of the NAACP is also wrong, except in the most legalistic sense.

The 13th Amendment freed remarkably few slaves, a couple hundred in DE and 50,000 or so in KY. All others had been freed previously by the Emancipation Proclamation or state action.

In the final sense, they were freed by the victorious Union Army, not by an amendment, which merely ratified existing fact close to half a million men had died to bring about.


8 posted on 03/15/2015 3:35:57 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: rickmichaels

read lincoln’s second inaugural. he pretty much thought it was God, too. in fact, he thought that the civil war was God’s punishment for american slavery.


9 posted on 03/15/2015 3:43:40 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: Sherman Logan

The Emancipation Proclamation was a Obama order...Dunno how much force it really would/’should’ have.


10 posted on 03/15/2015 3:46:53 PM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: Sherman Logan

No, the man’s not a moron.

The war was a sinful impatience on the part of mankind. Slavery would have ended eventually, had the government not interfered. It did so in the North, it would have done so in the South.


11 posted on 03/15/2015 3:58:16 PM PDT by angryoldfatman
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To: rickmichaels

Because he insulted socialism’s god - government


12 posted on 03/15/2015 3:58:44 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Sherman Logan

Clarification: “it did so in the North” = “slavery ended in the North”


13 posted on 03/15/2015 3:59:38 PM PDT by angryoldfatman
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To: Theoria

Which is of course a primary reason they passed the 13th Amendment. Prevented any future legal challenges to the EP. Also prevented any state from reinstituting slaver.

The EP freed individual slaves, it did not destroy the institution. State action and 13A did that.


14 posted on 03/15/2015 4:05:00 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: angryoldfatman

If your daughter was being held in slavery by ISIS in Syria, would you consider it sinful impatience to wage war to free her?

Or was there something different about the southern slaves that made their freedom less of a moral imperative?

Slavery is being revived in the world today. Do you still counsel patience to let God handle it?


15 posted on 03/15/2015 4:07:07 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan
Nevertheless, amid the greatest difficulties of my Administration, when I could not see any other resort, I would place my whole reliance on God, knowing that all would go well, and that He would decide for the right.

Lincoln must have been a moron too.

16 posted on 03/15/2015 4:07:50 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: angryoldfatman

Slavery ended in the North due to moral qualms and because it was not great hardship economically.

In the South the instutition was not only hanging on, it was growing and becoming steadily more profitable.


17 posted on 03/15/2015 4:08:36 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: vbmoneyspender

Abe was talking here about hoping God was behind his government, pretty much what I said. He certainly didn’t sit down and wait for God’s will to win the war and free the slaves.


18 posted on 03/15/2015 4:11:03 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

> He holds pretty much exactly the same position RE Lee held
> about slavery, that it could only be ended over some
> looonngg period of time by God working on the hearts of men.

That’s PRECISELY how slavery was ended in the British Empire.

See the movie “Amazing Grace”.


19 posted on 03/15/2015 4:14:56 PM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it)
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To: Sherman Logan
Abraham Lincoln was saying exactly what that gentleman said. It was God who decided the outcome, not our government.

As far as who was God's instrument in defeating slavery, do you think Abraham Lincoln thought it was the federal gov't or the free citizens of the United States? It is pretty obvious that the writer of the article thinks it was the federal gov't.

20 posted on 03/15/2015 4:20:14 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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