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1 posted on 02/05/2015 3:44:42 AM PST by dennisw
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I am posting this because there is a conflict between religion and medical science here. The Christian Science religion in this case.

Prayer can work but take care of the medical side too. Maybe God told you this when you were praying. God can help but you have to help too in the material world of medical treatment and even alternative medical treatments.


2 posted on 02/05/2015 3:48:39 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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In the late 1970s...I had a cousin who married a guy connected to the same religious group. She had health issues, and simply delayed treatment. At some point...a friend of the family contacted her dad and he walked in to claim his daughter....taking her to a local hospital. She was probably within three days of dying if he hadn’t done that.

Her husband and the local church group cut her off. Respect for them dwindled after that. She later happily divorced the guy.


3 posted on 02/05/2015 3:49:45 AM PST by pepsionice
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Religious beliefs: Kilmer is known to be a devout followers of Christian Science


Hmmm...wonder how they felt about him playing John Holmes in “Wonderland”?


4 posted on 02/05/2015 4:06:23 AM PST by rbg81
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You think his death from throat cancer will be as peaceful as his Doc Holiday death?


5 posted on 02/05/2015 4:07:03 AM PST by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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A truly saved person by the Holy Blood of Christ has nothing to fear.

If Val is refusing treatment because of his beliefs, then it could likely lead to his death. That said, a born again person only dies once.

I’m praying for his full recovery.


6 posted on 02/05/2015 4:15:29 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
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An Iowa farmer watched the floodwaters rise to his front porch. Finally, a man in a boat said, “Jump in, and I’ll take you to safety.”

The farmer crossed his arms and said stubbornly, “Oh no thanks, I put my trust in God.” The boat left, and eventually the water rose to the second story.

Another boat arrived: “Hurry, jump in. I’ll save you.”

The farmer again said, “Oh no thanks, I put my trust in God.”

That boat left, and the water continued rising, eventually inching over the roof. As the farmer stood on the roof, a helicopter lowered a ladder. The pilot yelled, “I’ll save you. Climb the ladder.”

The farmer yelled back, “Oh no thanks, I put my trust in God.”

The water continued to rise and finally the farmer drowned.

The farmer arrived in heaven, and God asked, “What are you doing here?”

“I put my trust in you, and you let me down.”

“What do you mean, let you down? I sent you two boats and a helicopter!”

Even if Val Kilmer was foolish enough to turn the boats away, I hope he will take the helicopter.


7 posted on 02/05/2015 4:50:12 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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I don’t wish cancer on anyone but Val seems to be an egotistical jerk. Here’s one example. http://www.military-money-matters.com/val-kilmer.html


12 posted on 02/05/2015 5:05:44 AM PST by CrazyIvan (I lost my phased plasma rifle in a tragic hovercraft accident.)
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Much similarity to Steve Jobs self destruction.
14 posted on 02/05/2015 5:20:33 AM PST by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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Prayers for his health.


16 posted on 02/05/2015 7:41:20 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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Well I hope he gets treatment and recovers but it is still a semi-free country. If the guy wants to count on God to save him who am I to argue?


17 posted on 02/05/2015 9:27:23 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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