Posted on 01/14/2015 4:38:09 PM PST by EveningStar
This May will mark ten-years since Star Trek: Enterprise on UPN went off the air. With the 50th anniversary of the franchise right around the corner and fans clamoring for Treks return to television, The CWs president Mark Pedowitz has revealed that hes interested in a new Star Trek series for the network.
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Then you said "Nearly the same dialogue, word for word."
If you don't have the same characters in all the scenes and the same situations then of course logic tells us it is not the same dialogue.
And finally: "Same scenes, with prettier effects,"
And again we have already established not the same scenes being they are different situations with different characters.
If you are going to pose an argument understand words like "exact" have a specific meaning.
And your "You sound like you COULD be Abrams himself." Is hilarious because IF you had actually read the thread you would know I think "Into Darkness" is a stinking Pile of Obama.
Bottom line you used an argument that it is easily disproved. Second if you are rewriting a show and the premise is the timeline has been changed so that you can retell the story there are going to be similarities LIKE some of the same characters but it will be different. For instance in the original Timeline Wrath of Khan plays out when the crew of the enterprise is much older. That is why Kirk's Son is not in Into Darkness.
In the new timeline Kirk and the Enterprise did not encounter the Botany Bay because Khan is awakened almost a decade before that event happened in the original timeline. Therefore Khan's motivation towards Kirk is totally different being Kirk did not strand him on a deserted planet where many of his people died to the nasty little critters that lived there and the catastrophic events that destroyed the neighboring planet (Ceti Alpha VI) and made Ceti Alpha V a living hell.
Maybe that’s not the point for YOU. That is the point for ME. That the Trek that was co-created by Gene L Coon (the man who gave us the Klingons and Khan) was significantly more interesting and entertaining than the Trek that was created by Roddenberry alone. Roddenberry took all the fun out of Trek, JJ put it back.
There’s nothing wrong with pandering. It is supposed to be entertainment FIRST, message first story telling is boring story telling, it’s the first 3 seasons of TNG, pretty much the entire run of Voyager. If you want people to hear your message you need to entertain them. There are good reasons JJ’s first Trek movie made more money than any 2 previous Trek movies combined, high on the list is that it was more entertaining than any of the other Treks not Khan.
Abrams Trek leads to having the biggest audience Trek has ever had so now if you want to whip some message on them you’ll have more people listening than ever before. Again look at TOS, it was entertaining FIRST with messages thrown in sometimes.
You shouldn’t have so much ego tied to stuff you didn’t create. That’s one of the things JJ Trek taught me, way too many old Trek fans feel way too tied to stuff they are merely an audience for.
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