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Ohio transgender teen's suicide prompts outcry
WTHR.COM ^ | : Dec 31, 2014 | WTHR

Posted on 01/01/2015 9:14:34 PM PST by Morgana

When I was 14, I learned what transgender meant and cried of happiness. After 10 years of confusion I finally understood who I was. I immediately told my mom, and she reacted extremely negatively, telling me that it was a phase, that I would never truly be a girl, that God doesn't make mistakes, that I am wrong. If you are reading this, parents, please don't tell this to your kids. Even if you are Christian or are against transgender people don't ever say that to someone, especially your kid. That won't do anything but make them hate them self. That's exactly what it did to me.

My mom started taking me to a therapist, but would only take me to christian therapists, (who were all very biased) so I never actually got the therapy I needed to cure me of my depression. I only got more christians telling me that I was selfish and wrong and that I should look to God for help.

When I was 16 I realized that my parents would never come around, and that I would have to wait until I was 18 to start any sort of transitioning treatment, which absolutely broke my heart. The longer you wait, the harder it is to transition. I felt hopeless, that I was just going to look like a man in drag for the rest of my life. On my 16th birthday, when I didn't receive consent from my parents to start transitioning, I cried myself to sleep."

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To: Morgana

I thought that when I saw some of the drawings. He needed a lot of help. No one around him knew just how sick he was.


21 posted on 01/01/2015 9:55:31 PM PST by MamaB
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To: dfwgator

this is the right response. the boy was mentally ill and tried to blame his parents for his destructive choice which has scarred the driver who hit him for life. SELFISH


22 posted on 01/01/2015 9:55:35 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: Morgana

Sad story. With this young MAN gone, though, I note what he said to his parents and think of how much it must hurt THEM.


23 posted on 01/01/2015 9:56:41 PM PST by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: Morgana

I would also like to know who the child molester was. by killing himself, the boy has allowed his rapist to continue diabolical works


24 posted on 01/01/2015 9:57:31 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: Morgana

We live in an era of sexualist fundamentalism. The anti godly notions of human sexuality trump all moral authority. Parents cannot disagree with this new sexual ethic. It’s quite dangerous and this case lays it bare.


25 posted on 01/01/2015 9:57:41 PM PST by lonestar67 (I remember when unemployment was 4.7 percent / Cruz 2016)
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To: Morgana

I hate when the media refers to these people by the “assumed” gender. There is no getting around one’s chromosomes..


26 posted on 01/01/2015 9:58:24 PM PST by cardinal4 (Certified Islamophobe..)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“The life-expectancy of homosexuals is 20 years less than heterosexuals.
The majority of lesbians are chronic alcoholics.

If homosexuality is so great, why are they all so sad?”

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So true. The homosexuals and lesbians are not happy, content and satisfied with their lives. Its not peer pressure or social norms that are the problem. It is their own self conscience. They are the ones who find emptiness and vanity at the end of the day. Its not happiness, only more enslavement and depression. Depression from the realization that their acts are selfish and not fulfilling.

The gay and lesbian communities have been pushing this agenda on childern and young teens for the last 10 years. They are LYING to these kids about this behaviorand how destructive and depressing it is. Throw in anxiety that always occur in the teenage years and suicide is a tragic possibility.


27 posted on 01/01/2015 10:02:34 PM PST by TMA62 (Al Sharpton - The North Korea of race relations)
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To: Morgana

50% of gender confused people try suicide at least once from what I read. I think that is more from their personal problem than rejection by others.


28 posted on 01/01/2015 10:06:13 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: morphing libertarian

Murder yourself, murder someone else, it’s all murder.


29 posted on 01/01/2015 10:06:45 PM PST by Persevero (Telling the truth is now "Hate Speech")
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To: Morgana

These people assume that the “normal” people have no personal crosses to bear. Or that they can’t be just as hard as whatever junk they are dealing with.

Normal people just don’t go parading it around expecting other people to high-five them for their weaknesses and foibles. Or demanding a whole pride month devoted to their problem.


30 posted on 01/01/2015 10:15:01 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Morgana
I felt hopeless, that I was just going to look like a man in drag for the rest of my life. On my 16th birthday, when I didn't receive consent from my parents to start transitioning, I cried myself to sleep."

I will express a few ideas that won't mesh well with popular opinion here.

IMO it is far better to err on the safe side in these matters. When it comes to male-to-female transgendered individuals the child quoted above is correct. As testosterone takes hold in the young adolescent male physical changes occur that will make it very hard to successfully transition later after the child reaches majority. i.e. Large hands, large feet, large and thickened facial anatomy, deep voice, wide shoulders...etc

If, however, synthetic estrogen is administered these changes will not occur. There are some changes that will result from the estrogen but they are not game killers. The voice will remain high in pitch, body frame, breasts and facial features will develop as a female. The important thing is these changes would not eliminate the possibility for reversal to a male body type if the child changes their mind later. Breasts can easily be removed, the voice will deepen and musculature size increase as an effect of testosterone. The individual will be smaller than would have been the normal case but small men have no problem passing as male.

However, when it comes to female-to-male it is inadvisable to administer testosterone before adulthood! The changes cause by testosterone would make it nearly impossible for the individual to change their mind and decide to live as female. They can safely wait till adulthood to start a F2M transition... they will however be a smaller male than would have been the case if testosterone had been administered early on. The chance to be a large male is not worth the risk of irreversibility IMO.

The ability of the adolescent to change their mind and revert to the sex they were born as is in my mind the most important thing in these cases!

It is possible for the young M2F transgendered child to have a normal looking female genital anatomy that is completely reversible. As far as I know this type of surgery has not been used... at least I have not come across any record of such a case in the medical literature.. I am adding on to this post a part of a post I made some time ago on a FreeRepublic thread as it pertains to the issue at at hand. My apologies for the rather detailed clinical subject matter that follows.

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There is a totally reversible form of the male to female operation.

The problem is that when they described the surgery no one seemed to want the reversible form...they did not want the testicles embedded inside of them along with major parts of the penis.

They wanted the parts GONE!

The embedded testicles do not produce testosterone at all because of the levels of estrogen in the system..usually a synthetic form of estrogen is used so the liver cannot do conversions of it to other steroids. This is why M2F people have lower T than even 12 year old girls do. The only T they have is a scant amount produced by the adrenal gland. Women get their T mainly from the ovaries and liver conversion. The embedded penis causes no problem and leaves no huge bulge..it is rendered incapable of erectile function. The sensitive part of the glans is exposed at the proper location to serve as a clitoris.

The reversible form uses a piece of intestine to form the vagina..this has the benefit that it self-lubricates the way a real vagina does and with the estrogen induced Ph change even the scent is very similar.

In the irreversible form of the surgery most of the penis is discarded... this is the stuff that simply cannot be replaced because erectile tissue like the penis or nipples is very unique. The scrotum becomes the labia, the outer skin of the penis becomes the vagina, the sensitive part of the glans is repositioned to become the clitoris.

Since males are capable of both types of orgasm, the male type and the female type, the surgery results in a fully orgasmic person. There is a drawback in that some M2F’s do not have the ability to have multiple orgasms since the male protective libido shutdown of areas of the brain that occurs upon ejaculatory orgasm still kicks in for them. This shutdown mechanism has evolved as a safety mechanism... otherwise males would keep chasing a sexual high until they collapsed. Every male is aware of this mechanism ;-)

Interestingly, there are women who have benefited from the surgical techniques developed for M2F surgery. In some women who are very sensitive to testosterone or who have been exposed to too much of it at some point, the clitoris enlarges into the form of a small penis. This is most distressing (don’t google for images..they are gruesome) The surgeons that fix this problem use the techniques engineered to strip off the sensitive part of the glans penis in transgender males for relocation as a functioning clitoris. They have learned how to perform this delicate surgery without damaging the nerves at all.

The reason this sort of thing can happen is because we all, male and female, carry the vestigial parts of opposite sex’s sexual anatomy. This is why under certain conditions some men have enlarged breasts and some women have an enlarged clitoris that resembles a small penis. Some women ejaculate at orgasm, this was always considered to be urine but more recent studies have found it to be a thin, somewhat sticky clear fluid closely resembling semen.

This is too much info for some and I will stop here... there is more but it’s only interesting to surgeons and perhaps endocrinologists.

It’s a shame the person referenced in the article did not have the reversible form of surgery done :-(

Oh, it is interesting that the only time that sexual deviants are free of their affliction is that short period of time that follows the shutdown of areas of the brain involved with libido that occurs after ejaculation.

31 posted on 01/01/2015 10:29:06 PM PST by Bobalu (Please excuse the crudity of this model. I didn't have time to build it to scale or paint it.)
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To: Morgana

The left wishes to deny therapy to those who need it and classify their condition as normal, which it obviously is not.


32 posted on 01/01/2015 10:44:54 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: TMA62

Do not forget, many are targeting children to satisfy their own sexual appetites. sickening. I have no doubt this young man was the victim of sexual abuse from someone.


33 posted on 01/01/2015 10:45:14 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: Secret Agent Man

There isn’t a single person on the face of the Earth that doesn’t struggle with a “dark side.” God gave us a brain, and the ability to reason, but did not tell us life would be easy, at least not after Adam and Eve blew that whole Garden of Eden thing. We pray for strength, and do our best live virtuous lives, but ultimately we all fail on some level. Should we acknowledge that a person is an adulterer, and criticise his/her spouse for not accepting, or honoring the act? How about the alcoholic? Maybe they should march in parades pronouncing their pride. Unfortunately, some will fail horribly at trying to overcome their problems, but that is not society’s fault. I know it sounds incredibly harsh, but everywhere in nature the weak, infirm, or inable are left to the predators so the herd can survive. We are not base animals, and we can do much to help the our weaker members, but we can’t do anything as long as we continue to insist day is night, just to placate the delusional.


34 posted on 01/01/2015 10:55:57 PM PST by Yogafist
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To: PGR88

I fear to comment on that statement and pray that I will never be so hopeless that I find myself in a situation to contemplate such an act.

I always think of that fateful day in 2001 when ‘normal’ people preferred to plunge to their deaths rather than be burned alive. None had a desire to kill him/her self.


35 posted on 01/01/2015 10:57:58 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: Morgana

First, let me say I am sorry this young person took their own life. No matter what the issue was, it is tragic when a person - especially a young person - gives up and thinks the only way out is to kill themselves.

Second, it seems pretty obvious this kid had a whole host of mental and emotional issues. To blame any one thing smacks of scapegoating. He was confused and probably needed more help than anyone realized, but that doesn’t make Christianity the culprit, despite what the media and the “outraged” LGBT activists on Twitter are pushing.

Third, I have a dear friend who dealt with a horrible trauma through the help of Christian therapists. Yes, faith is part of the equation, and it’s not an approach for everyone. But they also have all had clinical training in counseling, psychology, and in some cases, social work. In short, they are trained professionals like any other counselor, and the ones I’ve known have all been good people. I’m finding it hard to believe any of this young man’s therapists, much less *all* of them, actually called him “selfish” or otherwise berated him.. Perhaps he saw it that way, but again it could be his issues skewed his perception of things.

RIP, in any case.


36 posted on 01/01/2015 10:59:36 PM PST by DemforBush (Only I didn't say FUDGE...)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Who says they’re sad?

They claim to be gay.


37 posted on 01/01/2015 11:01:30 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: cardinal4

” that I was just going to look like a man in drag for the rest of my life”

Well, yeah


38 posted on 01/01/2015 11:02:41 PM PST by Salamander (No more nights of blood and fire..)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

What? Mental illness is caused by an abnormal brain chemistry which is something a person is born with.


39 posted on 01/01/2015 11:11:29 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (TOUCH MY SODA AND THERE'LL BE HELL TO PAY!!)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

Nope. Have doctors become your priests?


40 posted on 01/01/2015 11:15:42 PM PST by Olog-hai
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