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Does a Wreath Mean Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays?
Boston Globe ^ | Megan Turchi

Posted on 12/09/2014 7:05:28 AM PST by ConservativeStatement

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To: SZonian

I kind of do that ... it was nice in Australia where I worked for a time to see “Merry Christmas” displayed on TV from different companies and the station.


21 posted on 12/09/2014 8:16:52 AM PST by SkyDancer (I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am)
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To: SkyDancer

I do agree that it is disappointing to see the demise of “Merry Christmas” in general...it is what PC has wrought and a need for retribution by those who reject not only CHRISTmas, but Christ Himself.


22 posted on 12/09/2014 8:22:52 AM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: SZonian

The Final Judgement will be very interesting.


23 posted on 12/09/2014 8:24:58 AM PST by SkyDancer (I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am)
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To: SkyDancer

Yes, yes it will.


24 posted on 12/09/2014 8:25:47 AM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Christians should pray for an end to the wicked observance of unbiblical holy days, for a geniune Christian revival and America covenanting with God and bowing the knee to Jesus Christ.

In a Christian nation, there are 52 holy days per year, the Christian sabbath, the Lord’s Day.

The entire Gospel message is celebrated every Lord’s Day by God’s people.


25 posted on 12/09/2014 8:26:46 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: SZonian

I mute their absurd commercials that substitute the word “holiday” in place of “Christmas” during football games, One ad actually had a man saying “Last holiday, I opened my special gift..” So it’s “last holiday, holiday gift, holiday card, blah blah. Terrible stuff. One of the worst forms of PC tyranny and fanaticism is the unwillingness to even mention the word “Christmas.” And the musical backdrop is Carol of the Bells and Nutcracker over and over. No carols or even Jingle Bells are featured.

When someone says “Happy Holidays” to me, I wish them a “Happy generic giftgiving holiday” back at them.


26 posted on 12/09/2014 8:34:29 AM PST by Luke21
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To: KosmicKitty

Yea, that would do. :-))


27 posted on 12/09/2014 8:43:58 AM PST by mc5cents ("Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Luke21
"When someone says “Happy Holidays” to me, I wish them a “Happy generic giftgiving holiday” back at them."

Those who work in a store doing this are more than likely doing so in accordance with whatever store policy is in place as a condition of their employment. It doesn't neccessarily mean the individual agrees or disagrees with it. Being disagreeable on this point can make one appear to be petty.

In general, you would know how your friends and acquaintances feel with regards to Christmas and would respond accordingly, no?

As I pointed out above, there are those in society determined to exact revenge/retribution and there are those who are dancing on a fine line trying to avoid the wrath of any potential customers. It's really a principle that people choose to abide...companies can choose and we can choose which companies to patronize.

As another pointed out, maybe those of us who identify as Christian are really missing out on the real point of "Christmas" and the real meaning behind it. Although I would counter that it does present an awesome opportunity to testify about the birth of our Savior and what it means.

28 posted on 12/09/2014 8:46:59 AM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Since Christmas is supposed to commemorate the birth of Jesus whom these people do not believe in to begin with I can not see that it makes any difference what they call it.

And why would any Christian want to include a nativity scene along side the heathen scene?

Wreaths are nothing but man made ornaments.

This type of celebration was used as a type of worship to some heathen God long before Jesus was even born.

Jeremiah 10
10 Hear ye the word which the Lord speaketh unto you, O house of Israel:

2 Thus saith the Lord, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.

3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.

4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

5 They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.


29 posted on 12/09/2014 8:47:03 AM PST by ravenwolf (` Does the scripture explain it in full detail? if not how can you?)
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To: ConservativeStatement

“Wreathes mean what I wish them to, neither more nor less”.

My apolgies to Carroll.


30 posted on 12/09/2014 9:05:39 AM PST by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est. Because of what Islam is - and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: SkyDancer

Isn’t being concerned with what Libs think an indicator of too much hemoglobin on one’s caffeine stream?

Can such concerns cause “Second Hand Iignorance”?

;-)


31 posted on 12/09/2014 9:11:56 AM PST by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est. Because of what Islam is - and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: GladesGuru

My post #31 may prove that even contemplating the ideas of Libs induces spelling errors.

;-)


32 posted on 12/09/2014 9:14:47 AM PST by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est. Because of what Islam is - and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: GladesGuru

Something like that :)


33 posted on 12/09/2014 9:28:28 AM PST by SkyDancer (I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am)
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To: Cry if I Wanna

No, actually Odinists regarded oak trees as sacred. There is a connection with Christmas trees, though, but it is decidedly anti-pagan. When the Hieromartyr Boniface, Enlightener of Germany, was preaching in Germany, he felled an Odinist oak tree. Subsequently a fir tree grew on the spot. The Christianized Germans took its evergreen quality as a symbol of eternal life in Christ. The custom of commemorating the Feast of the Nativity with lighted trees (arguably on the basis of this account) seems to have begun in the 15th or 16th century, centuries after there were any pagans from whom any customs might have been derived.


34 posted on 12/09/2014 9:38:59 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: SZonian
Every time somebody says "Happy Holiday" simply reply,
"Merry Christmas" in a loud voice with a smile. I do it all the time,
every year. Especially in public.

35 posted on 12/09/2014 9:43:43 AM PST by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: Luke21

Actually, unless the context makes clear that “holidays” has actually been substituted for “Christmas” in a way that makes no sense, I have no problem with “Happy Holidays”.

There are lots of holidays in late December and early January: we Christians have the Feast of the Nativity, for us Orthodox the Synaxis of the Theotokos, the Feast of the Proto-Martyr and Deacon Stephen, the Feast of the Holy Innocents, the Feast of the Circumcision (coincident with the Feast of St. Basil the Great), and Theophany (in the West called Epiphany); Jews have Hanukkah; black liberationists have Kwanzaa; the world has New Years; secularist idiots have Festivus; and there are probably others I don’t know. I have no problem with the broad and inclusive greeting “Happy Holidays” to cover all of them.

So whatever feasts or observances you keep, to all FReepers and lurkers: Happy Holidays.


36 posted on 12/09/2014 9:47:56 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: ConservativeStatement

I don’t mind also having a menorah.


37 posted on 12/09/2014 9:52:44 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Green and red are the colors of Christmas - green for the everlasting life promised by those who live in spirituality and red for the blood of Christ.

Wreaths are not, even to the slightest degree, secular.


38 posted on 12/09/2014 10:24:14 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: silverleaf
1. The origins of the Advent wreath are found in the folk practices of the pre-Christian Germanic peoples who, during the cold December darkness of Eastern Europe, gathered wreaths of evergreen and lighted fires as signs of hope in a coming spring and renewed light

2. Wreaths are pagan.

3. if the library adds a menorah they owe us a crèche.

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39 posted on 12/09/2014 1:40:42 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: Cry if I Wanna
I think Christmas trees came from pagans who worshipped the god Odin.

For ME now Christmas decorating
1. means a nativity scene and
2. Christmas cards from the past in all the windows,

*****that is, Our Lord's birth and family/friends.

40 posted on 12/09/2014 1:45:29 PM PST by cloudmountain
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