Note the smoke....
Posted on 12/05/2014 7:09:47 AM PST by C19fan
Think of it as the return of the Phantom.
Fly boys of a certain age perked up with reports Thursday that F-4 Phantom II’s belonging to the Iranian air force — or what’s left of it — have attacked targets belonging to the Islamic State of Iraq and Greater Syria (ISIS) in recent days.
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I believe that's why it was called the flying brick.
/johnny
I was a crew chief on F-4 D,E,and G models and have the scars to prove it ;). IIRC, the aircraft could not climb much past 60 degrees due to fuel starvation. I remember there was a modification to reduce tail smoke. Prior to the mod, if you had to perform any maintenance aft of the engine nozzle, you would be covered in soot.
It wasn't called "flying brick" for nothing.
Ha! Should’ve read your post first, I guess. Beat me by a few minutes.
Thank you! I googled “Phantom I” and didn’t see that.
Looks like the Banshee, Panther, Cougar jets from the 50s.
Neat aircraft. Always like the early jet fighters.
Would have loved to pilot an F86 Saber.
Note the smoke....
I’m not saying they couldn’t maneuver vertically. They could not climb vertically. The fuel pumps could not supply the engines. They had scavenge pumps that could sustain short vertical fight, but full afterburner, no way.
They did a engine modification that eliminated most of the smoke. There was a time that you could see the smoke trail before you saw your jet.
I’ve flown F-4s against F-15s and Australian F-18s. We held our own, and sometimes more.
The F-4 did not have thrust greater than 1:1. It would not accelerate straight up.
We held our own, and sometimes more.
And THAT is what good training can accomplish!
The C-130 has been around a while too!
“I’m not saying they couldn’t maneuver vertically. They could not climb vertically. The fuel pumps could not supply the engines.”
Not true. I’ve climbed in the vertical with F-4s many times. The only restriction on vertical flight was gravity.
I grant an F-4 against F-15s and F-18s made for a tough fight with the F-4 at a disadvantage. It wasn’t hopeless, though, and overconfidence by the F-15 & F-18 pilots was often the F-4’s biggest advantage.
VMFA 232 (Red Devils) F4-J’s on the flight line in Subic Bay Philippines. About a month before deploying to Danang.
I grew up with the VTANG flying the F4 around here. I remember 5 minute stoppages in classes because there was no way to hear each other as they passed by miles away.
BTW, the VTANG is supposed to get the F35 in a few years. The greenies around here are losing their minds because the F35 is supposed to be so loud.
It can’t possibly be louder than the F4, can it?
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