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vanity | 11-19-14 | self

Posted on 11/19/2014 3:14:13 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic

Would somebody please explain to me why all these "important" votes in the Senate now need 60 votes to pass? I know that it is some kind of "rule" that Harry Reid instituted, but when does it kick in, and what is the reasoning behind it?


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To: sphinx

So, the recent vote on Keystone XL was not a vote on the Bill, itself, but a vote on cloture? IOW, the Bill is still “live” and could be voted on if they find one more vote?


21 posted on 11/19/2014 7:18:42 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Maurice Tift
Obama will veto everything and it takes 60 votes to override a veto

Actually it take two thirds of both houses to override, that's 67 in the Senate.

22 posted on 11/19/2014 7:26:24 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I am not a rules hawk, but i believe so. Cloture having failed, the bill is still technically open for debate. Any Senator could again ask unanimous consent to proceed to a vote and, if there is objection, move for cloture.


23 posted on 11/19/2014 7:41:35 AM PST by sphinx
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To: Gaffer

Absolutely correct.

Cloture occurs (or doesn’t) entirely within the senate and is related to ending filibusters and forcing bills to the senate floor to be heard and voted upon. The number of votes required for cloture is covered under the ever-changing rules of the senate.

The requirements for over-riding a presidential veto are specifically outlined in the Constitution and are based on simple mathematics. A 2/3 majority vote of both houses of congress is required to over-ride the president’s veto of a bill. In the 100 member senate that means 67 votes. In the 435 member house of reprehensibles it means 290 votes.

The requirements to over-ride a veto cannot be changed except by constitutional amendment, not even by Harry Reid, and not even by using “common core” math.


24 posted on 11/19/2014 7:56:01 AM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: JimRed
  that's 67 in the Senate

  I had a feeling that 60 was just too easy as soon as I posted that message. If we can't get a veto-proof majority in January 2015, then the Keystone bill should be attached to whatever bill it is that funds Obama's lavish lifestyle. Is flying coach really that bad?
25 posted on 11/19/2014 3:13:30 PM PST by Maurice Tift (Never wear anything that panics the cat. -- P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: Maurice Tift

can someone explain why there are votes in the senate which require 60 to pass.


26 posted on 11/19/2014 3:15:54 PM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: afraidfortherepublic

It takes 60 to invoke “cloture” and stop the debate so it can go to a simple majority vote (51).

This is a scam both parties use to say they were “for something” before “they voted against it”.


27 posted on 11/19/2014 3:16:15 PM PST by Fledermaus (REPEAL OBAMACARE!! Hold the feet of the GOPe to the fire!)
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To: Kozak
You always needed 60 votes to get cloture in the Senate.

I did not hear that it was a cloture vote. Thank you Kozak.

28 posted on 11/20/2014 3:24:42 AM PST by houeto (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate)
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