Posted on 11/04/2014 1:05:26 AM PST by LibWhacker
All we are is dust in the wind, dude.
I find it amusing that scientists keep searching to find the smallest particle that can account for the mass necessary to make their formulas work properly.
The missing ingredient is not a minuscule nano-particle, but the greatest one of all.... GOD. There scientists will find the missing ingredient that surpasses all understanding and makes all the equations balance!
It comes down to there must be a creator, and we are but one
instance of a multiverse of creation. We think we are so smart, but the more we learn, the more we realize we really don’t know much at all.
We certainly are living in interesting times when it comes to physics and astronomy. The times are so interesting, in fact, and so changing (with new data coming in all the time from space telescopes and particle accelerators and neutrino detectors buried in mine shafts, etc) that I wish dates would be added to quotes from scientists. Some of the scientists quoted in the above article (Guth, for example) have expressed doubts about their own particular theories based on new data from refined measurements of the cosmic background radiation. When anyone is quoted in one of these articles, whenever possible I would like to see the date the statement was made.
It's just another bit of the Universe.
Other Universes - if they existed - would have to be strictly orthogonal to our Universe, and thus be undetectable.
Whenever we detect something - whatever we detect is by definition part of our Universe.
If/when we find different phase spaces, areas of reduced or enhanced dimensionality, multiply connected space - whatever weird and wonderful things are out there - we're merely discovering that our Universe is more complex and strange than we originally thought.
Other Universes cannot be detected. If you can detect them then they weren't 'other' Universes in the first place.
There is no observation you can make that can show the existence of another Universe. If you can observe it, it's in our Universe.
The theory of a 'MultiVerse' of multiple Universes is not only non-disprovable: it is also strictly non-provable. This makes it a uniquely pointless concept.
Nothing exploded and created everything. No faith required there.
The Universe's parameters have to be exactly fine-tuned to allow for the existence of life. The fact that they have been so fine-tuned argues for the existence of a Creator.
Multiverse theory is not scientific: it's a figleaf.
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Exactly! I am no physicist, nor mathematician (for sure), but it seems to me the problem they have is they are trying their best to look for an explanation that does not include the Creator, whether they realize it or not. I suspect that is the source of their frustration.
If you want to see an atheist’s head explode, point out that the multiverse theory implies an infinity of universes with god(s), and an infinity without ... and ask, which one do you think we live in, and why?
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Ha! That’s a wonderful, truly sci-fi concept.
Maybe there could be some Universes made by God, and some rubbish ones that just turned up by themselves.
Anyone requiring "immortal watchers", "two headed cows", and "eternal inflation" to describe their theories, is certainly "moving in the opposite direction". Keep in mind, that during "inflation", the laws of physics DON'T apply.
They claim that the entire universe is expanding. I’ve always wondered “Expanding into what?”
Assume for the moment that the universe started with a big bang, expanded to some size that allowed planets, galaxies etc, and continues to expand.
If the universe is really expanding then wouldn’t all of it be expanding more or less uniformly? That is, as the distance between galaxies expands the distance between the stars in those galaxies also expands and the distance between the planets orbiting those stars also expands etc etc etc down to the distance between the atoms in our bodies also expands and those very atoms expand! Likewise the distance measurable by our most accurate tools also expands because those very tools are expanding. So universal expansion is unmeasureable and undetectable.
Going backwards in time would bring us to the point where the galaxies (in comparison to us today) would be microscopic as their atoms are even smaller. The “point” source would have to be a fully formed and functioning universe that, to it’s inhabitants, is indistinguishable from the universe today (relative sizes do not change as everything gets bigger).
This is not to say that the galaxies cannot be moving one in relation to the other.
If it was expanding, at some point there would have to be an observable limit to the universe beyond which you could not go. But if you can see the limit, then you can see beyond the limit, which means that it’s not really a limit after all, as whatever the universe is expanding into, is already in the universe.
So, it seems to me that the galaxies moving away from each other is not a sign of universal expansion but of something else. And I’d expect that we’d find some cases of galaxies moving towards one another (colliding) which we do.
...What are the odds , indeed...
What are the odds that the Church would celebrate the “Alteration of Mass” every Sunday morning....and what are the odds that you turn your back to this fact...and what are the odds if the total sum of all Mankind’s theoretical hyperbole is zero...
What are the odds that the Earth is flat and what are the odds that the speed of light as well as the sound barrier can never be broken...
...But do not be discouraged my friends , just keep at it for a time , for time is why you are here.
“Than the theory predicts”
Then the theory is wrong and must be trashed.
Truth: there is one universe. Talk of “multiverses” is just more of the insanity into which this country has descended.
The article points out that many physicists don’t like the multiverse theory and wish it would go away. The problem is they can’t rule it out at this point.
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