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Flight Diverted After Passengers Feud Over ‘Knee Defender’ Blocking Reclining Seat
ABC via Yahoo News ^ | Aug. 26,2014 | ABC News

Posted on 08/26/2014 7:33:15 PM PDT by Michael.SF.

A $22 product designed to protect the most sacred of things when flying –- personal space -– led to an unscheduled landing in Chicago during a flight from Newark to Denver.

Two passengers aboard the diverted United Airlines flight got into a heated argument Sunday after a male passenger used the product, the Knee Defender, to prevent the woman in the row in front from reclining her seat.

The man, who was not identified, placed the Knee Defender’s brackets on his tray table attached to the back of the seat in front of him, 11B.

The female passenger seated in 11B became angry over not being able to recline her seat and reportedly threw a cup of water in the man’s face.

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KEYWORDS: 3rdthread; producttampering; tempertantrum; uncooperative
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To: Inyo-Mono

I’m with you. At 6 foot 2 I can’t fly with the person leaning back on my knees.
That said, society has deteriorated to the point that people can’t handle minor issues respectfully without having to be told by the government what to do.
And diverting a flight over it?
Come on! Am I the only one that thinks that response is a tad overkill?
Surely so,evoke with a cool head could bring common sense to the situation and everyone move on.
What a pitiful society this has become.


21 posted on 08/26/2014 8:00:46 PM PDT by Clump ( the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
"This is why liberals support Islam because it would stop arguments like this by having the woman removed from the plane and stoned to death."

Don't be silly. Sheesh!

No way they would stop the plane.

He'd just slit her throat right there and probably start eating, like that "Greyhound Bus Cannibal" back in 2012.

22 posted on 08/26/2014 8:01:01 PM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: MRourke85
Sorry Michael SF. I am 6’4 with long legs. ANY recline by the person in front of me crushes my knees. So, I am NOT sympathetic to the woman in 11B.

What if the 6'4" guy in the seat in front of you is scrunched in because the person in front of him reclined his seat too? Is he supposed to suck it up to give you more room?

23 posted on 08/26/2014 8:01:09 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: flaglady47

Reclining seats were designed to be used when they didn’t cram 400 people onto a 737 originally designed to carry no more than 80 passengers. They just crammed another 50 or more seats onto the same airplane and just to piss people off even more, they kept the recliners.

It is damned rude to recline your seat so that your hair is falling onto the lap of the guy behind you.

Yes, anyone who reclines their seat should be turned over to ISIS for a proper beheading.


24 posted on 08/26/2014 8:03:23 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: Michael.SF.

I wonder if “Knee Defender” has nice, smooth, rounded edges so that it doesn’t cause damage or pain when the passenger in the seat in front of you transforms it into “Involuntary Buttplug”?


25 posted on 08/26/2014 8:05:02 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Michael.SF.

It appears that you have to lower your tray in order to use the knee defender.


26 posted on 08/26/2014 8:06:05 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Michael.SF.
I am only slightly more comfortable in a reclined seat than a straight one, and vastly less comfortable when the person in front of me reclines. I vote for non-reclining seats on the airplane until they start giving about 12 inches more leg room that is available now.

And after this story became public, it looks like kneedefender.com is being overwhelmed by traffic.

27 posted on 08/26/2014 8:06:19 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (The IRS: either criminally irresponsible in backup procedures or criminally responsible of coverup.)
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To: P-Marlowe

>> It is damned rude to recline your seat so that your hair is falling onto the lap of the guy behind you.

I’m nearly bald, so I’m okay, right? :-)

>> anyone who reclines their seat should be turned over to ISIS for a proper beheading.

Couldn’t they just take the legs off at the thigh and everyone would be happy?


28 posted on 08/26/2014 8:07:00 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: flaglady47

“Go after the airplane industry for not coming up with a better way to recline seats, or so they leave more space between rows of seats”

Supposedly that was fixed with the 787 Dreamliner, so they say.


29 posted on 08/26/2014 8:07:28 PM PDT by ScottfromNJ
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To: P-Marlowe

“Yes, anyone who reclines their seat should be turned over to ISIS for a proper beheading.”

My, showing a whole lot of hostility there, aren’t you. As long as there are reclining seats on airplanes, they are meant to be used for reclining. If you are uncomfortable with the person, male or female (this isn’t a gender thing, you know, although who knows, maybe to you it is), then don’t get on an airplane with rows close together. It’s your problem, not the person sitting in front of you. You aren’t recliner dictator for life, you know.


30 posted on 08/26/2014 8:09:43 PM PDT by flaglady47 (The useful idiots always go first)
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To: Cementjungle
Maybe the airlines should seat passengers based on height to avoid the problem. Stagger the short and talk people.
Or better, remove 20% of the seats and make more space so people can fly without getting injured.
I've been the 6’ 2” guy sandwiched between a short person reclining and a tall person behind me.
So I asked a nice short lady if she would switch me and wallah, problem solved.
This thread is funny though.
Of all the things we FReepers debate and toss around, this one has the real potential for extra fun.
It's not like this is a fundamental issue facing society.
31 posted on 08/26/2014 8:10:38 PM PDT by Clump ( the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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To: Michael.SF.

I have to wonder what the FAA thinks of these devices. I would certainly request to move to another seat if someone next to me started installing a modification that holds the tray in the down position. Worse, it looks like the devices can only be removed by a key - quick, we’re about to go down into the ocean, please find the key to remove these devices that make it harder for me to leave the plane before it sinks...

For those who desire knee room, please choose seats right behind the emergency exit rows on the wings. Those seats do not recline, and virtually every airline lets you pick your particular seats these days. Or even better yet, choose an airline that gives you the right amount of legroom.


32 posted on 08/26/2014 8:11:13 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: Clump

Yes, I never threw a fit over it, nor would I. Diverting a flight over that is insane. Like you said, society has become pitiful.


33 posted on 08/26/2014 8:11:14 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
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To: Nervous Tick
Couldn’t they just take the legs off at the thigh and everyone would be happy?

You want leg room? Your leg room is in the overhead compartment now.

34 posted on 08/26/2014 8:12:52 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (The IRS: either criminally irresponsible in backup procedures or criminally responsible of coverup.)
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To: Clump

Don’t tall people know that there are seats available to them on the plane with the extra room?


35 posted on 08/26/2014 8:13:07 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: MRourke85

I am 6’ 4” as well. It is broads like that limit my flying to about one trip per year. And I pay extra for the seat with no one in front of me.


36 posted on 08/26/2014 8:14:40 PM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: Michael.SF.

She shouldn’t have thrown water in his face. He would have been justified in retaliating by throwing acid in her face, but he probably didn’t have any and it’s hard to get any during a flight.


37 posted on 08/26/2014 8:15:17 PM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: flaglady47

Problems like this are why I fly on the outside of the airplane. There is no host service, but I have plenty of room to lay back.


38 posted on 08/26/2014 8:16:05 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Michael.SF.

An airline should have a policy that will give everyone reasonable comfort. If not, we will goto an airline that does.


39 posted on 08/26/2014 8:17:44 PM PDT by Bethaneidh
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To: UCANSEE2

“Problems like this are why I fly on the outside of the airplane. There is no host service, but I have plenty of room to lay back.”

LOL, that’s funny. My solution is to just not fly.


40 posted on 08/26/2014 8:18:09 PM PDT by flaglady47 (The useful idiots always go first)
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