With all thy getting, get understanding
suicide is the selfish way out for cowards who cannot face their demons. Robin Williams had every opportunity to wage war against substance abuse and depression. he had the time and the miney to ger help and he couldnt do it. the rest of us face our problems every day and do our best. my father killed himself over stupid reasons, to this day i cannot forgive what he did to his wife and children.
That is all so true. But... That is also a rational thought which is very difficult for those struggling with depression who are not able to think rationally like you and I.
Let God judge between Rollins and Williams when the time comes.
I couldn’t stand even looking at Robin Williams. I saw him as a twisted, troubled, tormented soul. I will never forget seeing a performance for The Prince’s (Charles) Trust. It was such a hateful, vitriolic attack on then Pres. Bush Sr. So inappropriate for the event and in a foreign country. Not just criticism but twisted and almost demonic.
He was a very unhealthy person and only a very unhealthy society could have made him such a star.
Well said. I am a first responder in a small <7000 community.
Suicide by fathers is rare but makes you shake your head. Two cases I recall were both by carbon monoxide in closed garages. In one case the father lost his job and committed suicide one week before his daughters wedding. The other still makes me furious. a Dentist with five kids does it by running a car in an attached garage while his wife and kids were sleeping in the house. The children were all ill and hospitalized but survived.
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You've been existing fairly comfortably in the bosom of Hollywood for a couple of decades now; towing the lefty line on plenty of issues....will be interesting to see if it continues from here.
I think we invest entertainers with too much importance.
His words are no different than what you will read in any suicide prevention book.
Henry Rollins is correct.
Clinical Depression renders a person unable to weigh the facts correctly. Everything looks and feels so much worse than it really is, and it’s all because of how much/little of the right chemicals are getting into your brain cells. I wouldn’t call death by depression a suicide, necessarily. It’s an effect of a serious disease.
However, those who decide to die because they are of the opinion that a life that involves being less than they were at their prime is not worth living.... that’s murder. Those terminally ill people who aren’t crippled by depression, but just “don’t want to be seen this way” are just being selfish.
But God sorts it out. He knows the mental state of the dying person.
There was a list awhile back on the "coolest" people through recent history.
Hemingway was on the list. Sorry, suicide automatically precludes one from being considered "cool".
A similar thought occurred to me while observing a devastated friend and his wife trying to deal with the suicide of their son. So it goes the other way, too. Almost anything is better suicide; it leaves a very deep and wide swath of emotional destruction through those who loved you most. I think few of them ever fully recover from it.
My stepsister found her father hanging from the rafters in the garage when she was six or seven. Screwed that girl and her brother up for life. Very selfish thing to do.
The way I look at it. Suicide due to depression takes that pain inside and spreads it. It’s like the vhs tape in The Ring. It ends for you but another has to suffer in your stead.
The suicide of a parent is a very destructive thing, and children of suicides are much more likely to take their own lives. Suicide is, in the end, an extremely selfish act.
I never liked Robin Williams much anyway, because I thought he was all about Robin Williams and somehow he thought that these “wise liberals” he portrayed were really the expression of himself...which they may have been, but he himself was so shallow that after a while nobody cared. Killing himself simply proves that it was all about him.
BTW, one of the best reviews I ever read was in the WSJ, reviewing some movie Robin Williams had made, and it read “Never go to see anything with Robin Williams with a beard.” Those were his “profound” movies. And then the next sentence was “Never go to see anything with Robin Williams without a beard.”
The only movie he made that I liked was Moscow on Hudson, which was not political and was actually quite funny. I don’t remember whether or not he had a beard in that one...
His ex-wives must be so distraught over all that money that won’t be coming in.
I made you laugh, I’ve made you cry,,,
And nobody gave damn when I was depressed ...
Henry Garfield.
Where do the decades go?
Unless or until you’ve fallen so deep into a hole that you feel you can never climb out of where the pain is unbearable- where everything becomes a struggle- where you see no hope and feel only pain from the circumstances in your life- you cannot begin to comprehend what goes on in the mind of a person who contemplates suicide or the so called “selfish “ reasons.
Suicides want the pain to end and see only one way to do that....death. Many do not want to be a burden to their friends and family any longer. They just want it to be over and done with. They want the pain they are feeling to stop. They see NO HOPE and NO other options. They see only one way to make the pain go away.
Suicide is absolutely heart wrenching for everyone involved but especially for the tortured soul who takes their own life.