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Musk ox invasion keeps Nome wildlife managers busy
Anchorage Daily News ^ | comJuly 2, 2014 | SEAN DOOGAN

Posted on 07/03/2014 11:39:53 AM PDT by skeptoid

Nome is used to rowdy residents, but some relatively new transplants are making a real nuisance of themselves -- although unlike the colorful characters of the early 20th century gold rush days, these visitors have four legs, not two.

Musk oxen are wandering into the city on the Seward Peninsula, and despite loud noises, water hoses and even a blow-up bear coated in ursine urine, they don't want to leave.

(Excerpt) Read more at adn.com ...


TOPICS: Local News; Outdoors; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: alaska; doomage; elk; freepun; hoth; koalaoil; monkeyfacerules; moose; muskox; nome; penguinhumor; undeadthread
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To: moose07; Monkey Face
lukewarm first ,then put in trays and freeze.” ‘Something to do with thermodynamics’

Well... not exactly.

It is true that the rate of change of temperature of the lukewarm water will be faster than the rate of change of temp for cooler/cold water (that part is thermodynamics) eventually the lukewarm water will reach the same temperature that the cold water would have been already. And THEN is has to cool some more to freeze...

But you used more energy to get the lukewarm water cold (that part is also thermodynamics...) in addition to the energy you used to get the lukewarm water lukewarm.. ;-)

861 posted on 07/22/2014 12:31:08 PM PDT by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: NoCmpromiz; moose07

Thanks, NoC. I understood everything up to “Well...not exactly.” From then on, I was lost. ;o]


862 posted on 07/22/2014 12:48:34 PM PDT by Monkey Face (When I told you I was normal, I may have exaggerated slightly.)
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To: NoCmpromiz

Ah, thank you. Can you give me a link to the chord sheet in English? This seems like the sort of thing Geovanny, “the other guy” in our Spanish music program, would play on his keyboard. He might even be familiar with the song if Spanish-speaking charismatics use it.


863 posted on 07/22/2014 12:53:37 PM PDT by Tax-chick (No power in the 'verse can stop me.)
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To: Tax-chick
Well... I play it on keyboard... ;-)

And I would bet that a charismatic would probably be familiar with the song (if not, give him the link).

If anyone there has a CCLI license, I can give you the info to get the song directly. Or, FReepmail me an email address and I'll send you a copy of my PDF.. (do you want it in the key of D or E?) (can't link a file on my hard drive to FReepmail...)

864 posted on 07/22/2014 1:04:15 PM PDT by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: NoCmpromiz

We’re a guitar band, but Geovanny plays an electronic teclado with many bells, whistles, and sound effects.

I’ll freepmail my email address ... Darksheare’s having it hasn’t hurt me yet ;-) ... and in D, please.


865 posted on 07/22/2014 1:06:40 PM PDT by Tax-chick (No power in the 'verse can stop me.)
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To: Monkey Face
So you put a tray of 68° water and a tray of 35° water in the freezer at the same time. Both will start cooling. The 35° water only has to give up 3° to begin freezing. The 68° water has to loose 36° before it starts freezing.

Which one do you think will freeze first? The 35° water is not going to sit around and wait for the 68° water to 'catch up' (except maybe in the reality warp that is Searchlight...)

866 posted on 07/22/2014 1:12:19 PM PDT by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: NoCmpromiz; Monkey Face

All of the above is true.
However it does appear that a body already undergoing an enery transition from a High to Very Low energy state accomplishes this faster than a Body undergoing a transition from a Low to Very Low energy state.
Either that or it is a cool magicians trick. :)


867 posted on 07/22/2014 1:16:17 PM PDT by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day. Doggies Rock.)
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To: NoCmpromiz

Well. I have to think about that, and it’s late (for me) and because I’ve already taxed my brain and body with shenanigans around here, I’m going to go out on a limn and say, the 35 degree water...

(She says, hesitantly.)


868 posted on 07/22/2014 1:19:40 PM PDT by Monkey Face (When I told you I was normal, I may have exaggerated slightly.)
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To: NoCmpromiz

On the other hand, that CUTE young man is playing it on guitar ...


869 posted on 07/22/2014 1:25:24 PM PDT by Tax-chick (No power in the 'verse can stop me.)
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To: Tax-chick

Don’t worry, you’ll have guitar chords.. ;-)


870 posted on 07/22/2014 1:31:24 PM PDT by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: NoCmpromiz; Anoreth; Monkey Face

This Evan Craft is *really* good, y tan guapo tambien. Lots of music to listen to. I could get my middle-aged (and older) Latina choirladies together, with some wine, and we could ... pick out some songs to learn.


871 posted on 07/22/2014 1:34:15 PM PDT by Tax-chick (No power in the 'verse can stop me.)
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To: Monkey Face
the 35 degree water...

And you would be correct. By the time the 68° water gets to 35° the 35° water would already be frozen... ;-)

872 posted on 07/22/2014 1:34:49 PM PDT by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: Tax-chick
Lots of music to listen to. I could get my middle-aged (and older) Latina choirladies together, with some wine, and we could ... pick out some songs to learn.

Which is one of the reasons I thought of you... ;-)

Email on way with 406kb PDF attachment. Let me know if it comes through ok.

873 posted on 07/22/2014 1:37:45 PM PDT by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: NoCmpromiz

Tanks! The comments on Youtube say he’s from Nicaragua, but he has a nice, clear, American-Spanish pronunciation. We have a fair number of Salvadorans in our congregation, but I don’t know anyone from Nicaragua.


874 posted on 07/22/2014 1:39:04 PM PDT by Tax-chick (No power in the 'verse can stop me.)
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To: Tax-chick

Maybe he learned Spanish after speaking English, like Selena Quintanilla.


875 posted on 07/22/2014 1:40:16 PM PDT by Tax-chick (No power in the 'verse can stop me.)
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To: moose07
However it does appear that a body already undergoing an enery transition from a High to Very Low energy state accomplishes this faster than a Body undergoing a transition from a Low to Very Low energy state.

Appearances can be subjective. What is true is what I originally posted. Note wording "rate of change" which equates to what you just said...

It is true that the rate of change of temperature of the lukewarm water will be faster than the rate of change of temp for cooler/cold water (that part is thermodynamics) eventually the lukewarm water will reach the same temperature that the cold water would have been already.

BUT... eventually the more energetic body will have reached the initial state of the low energy body, which was not in stasis...

876 posted on 07/22/2014 1:42:39 PM PDT by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: Tax-chick

I was all set to take a shower and go lie down, but the maintenance supervisor came to see about the fire extinguisher and the damage it wreaked on my person. As he was leaving, he said he would be back this afternoon with another extinguisher.

Either an older model extinguisher or a newer model bracket, and says he is not happy with the guy who left it. Neither am I, and had I been here, I would never have allowed him to leave it.

He took pics of my arm and legs so the manager is going to see it soon.


877 posted on 07/22/2014 1:54:00 PM PDT by Monkey Face (When I told you I was normal, I may have exaggerated slightly.)
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To: NoCmpromiz

Yep.
Going to have to do an experiment with this.
The bit i would like to know for sure is if the higher rate of change continues in the ‘Hot’ water after it has reached the initial state of the ‘Cool’ water, or if the rate of change slows to match that of the ‘Cool’ water.
Have to borrow the Laser thermometer and have a play in the freezer. :)


878 posted on 07/22/2014 1:57:33 PM PDT by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day. Doggies Rock.)
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To: moose07

Real science.


879 posted on 07/22/2014 2:12:51 PM PDT by Tax-chick (No power in the 'verse can stop me.)
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To: Tax-chick

Um, more an excuse to play with, Water, a freezer, and a Laser.
What could possibly go wrong...


880 posted on 07/22/2014 2:15:44 PM PDT by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day. Doggies Rock.)
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