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Vanity - Vietnam Vet visiting my local Vet Out patient first time.
Free Republic | 5-14-2014 | Red_devil 232

Posted on 05/27/2014 3:31:17 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232

I am a Vietnam era vet and will be visiting my local Veterans Out Patient clinic on Thursday morning for my initial evaluation. The out patient clinic contacted me last week to set up this first visit after having applied for it over seven month ago. I have a couple of health Issues; one is my right hip is giving me some serious problems and the other is a dental problem.

My question is what can I expect from this initial visit? They have me in their computer system and all the info I submitted. Do I need to bring extra info? DD214 etc?

I need all the info I may need to make this evaluation go smoothly.

I am also insured by my wife’s employer’s insurance policy and Medicare.

Just wondering if anyone has some constructive advice?


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To: Red_Devil 232

At some point you will end up in front of the person doing the means testing. That person is going to look at all the documentation.

Have them scan and enter those documents into your file.

When I renewed my drivers license here in maine I needed to prove place of birth for the first time. I did not have a certified copy of my birth certificate. It was going to take 10 days and about 25 bucks to get it.

Since my DD-214 has my place of birth on it (some do, others do not) I just had to get a certified copy from my VA office about 5 miles from the DMV.


41 posted on 05/27/2014 5:19:20 PM PDT by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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To: Red_Devil 232
Hey! My wife insists.

OK then, I hope it all works out for you.

With that being said, I was a benefits rep for my corporation for many years and the biggest problems I had to deal with on behalf of our employees and retirees was the "coordination of benefits" between other insurance companies and ours. Each one rejecting claims, stating the other was responsible.............

42 posted on 05/27/2014 5:25:20 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Under Reagan spring always arrived on time.....)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Thank you for your service
But do you realize how fortunate you are to have both your wife’s health insurance and medicare?
It might be better for you to use those resources and leave the already overcrowded VA to people with service connected disabilities and for those who have no where else to go.

for what you would have to pay in copays you could pay for a Med Sup plan and use the private sector relieving the VA of at least one apt and service that might go to someone who really needs it


43 posted on 05/27/2014 5:37:01 PM PDT by RWGinger
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To: trisham; Red_Devil 232

Bump to the top. Thanks, Red


44 posted on 05/27/2014 5:49:30 PM PDT by norwaypinesavage (The Stone Age didnÂ’t end because we ran out of stones)
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To: RWGinger

My understanding is the VA gives good service, you have to wait a long time for it and you pay for it if you aren’t retired from the service or service related.

Good luck, they mostly seem like really nice folks in there.


45 posted on 05/27/2014 6:08:30 PM PDT by JAKraig (Surely my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: Red_Devil 232

You’re welcome


46 posted on 05/27/2014 6:08:48 PM PDT by novemberslady
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To: Bruce Kurtz

I believe they cover dental for the first year after discharge. I just know that I don’t get dental.


47 posted on 05/27/2014 6:56:56 PM PDT by Chuckster (The longer I live the less I care about what you think.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

His question was a valid one. I am a Viet Nam era vet, but I was not in Viet Nam, so I am not able to be treated at the VA.


48 posted on 05/27/2014 7:51:58 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Chuckster

It is currently at 100% disability. I have been trying for several years to get dental care but my VA primary care provider keeps telling me that I am not eligible despite the fact that all od my dental problems are related to old fillings put in by the army which are now falling out and causing my teeth to crack.

I do have a “service related disability” for my heart problems which first started in the army but despite Social Security stating that I am 100% disabled effective December 2000, the VA still refuses to adjust my rating above 5 percent because I was once working at a desk job as a computer programmer.

I am also suffering from constant back and left knee pain from in juries suffered in the army and documented on my service record. The VA declares these “treated and resolved by the Army” despite my constant suffering since my release from active duty. I was treated four times over a three year period while in the army including two trips to the emergency room.

I fell and knocked my left kneecap loose while in the army which lead to three major operations on my left knee about 16 years after getting out. This injury also appears in my medical records and is dismissed by the VA as of insufficient evidence since there were no broken bones, only soft tissue damage to the very important elements which hold the knee together.

Forget about the VA itself ever granting you approval for disability compensation and their own doctors will fight against you due to the rules that are required to give service under.

The only way that you can get the appropriate disability compensation is by going through an external doctor and getting their statement of disability and the more doctors the better. HOWEVER, the VA is very careful to ask if you are receiving care outside of the VA and will be quick to drop you if they find out.


49 posted on 05/28/2014 1:47:10 AM PDT by dglang
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To: Enterprise
I was not in Viet Nam, so I am not able to be treated at the VA.
That's no longer true and is actually part of the problem.
All vets have qualified for health care for many years now, and the extent of that coverage is based on several factors. (See the VA Priority table.)
However, this policy of "everyone qualifies" just increases the burden for all VA facilities nationwide and is stressing the system to the max (I'm not defending the VA - it's just a logical consequence).
If the H/C benefit was only available to those who had service connected injuries, the current VA tragedy might not have happened.
50 posted on 05/28/2014 5:57:26 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven

I’m not saying you are wrong, but a few years ago, when I went in to ask, I was told to my face that I did not qualify because I did not serve in Viet Nam. Also, I was informed by E-Mail of the same when I contacted the VA on line. But you are right to point out that if I don’t need to be treated there, it is best to leave it alone for the sake of others. So I will.


51 posted on 05/28/2014 6:17:35 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: SgtBob
I’m an 0861, and I’ll rib a grape when I git a chance.
Sooo, being in FDC gives you the right to mock someone who was in combat and actually did the fighting while you were safe underground? That is, if you were ever in a combat zone.
In fact, FDC was so safe, the guys "in the rear with the gear" called FDC the "guys in the rear with the gear." So safe, the FDC bunker was an in-country R&R center.
During my entire 13 months of busting my @ss in 'Nam (DMZ), I never met anyone from FDC ... not one. And you have the gall to "rib" me? Feckin' pogue.
52 posted on 05/28/2014 6:52:51 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Enterprise
I was told to my face that I did not qualify because I did not serve in Viet Nam.
They lied.
I actually received a letter from the VA about a year ago telling me I was eligible for Group 7 coverage.
Interesting because, 1) I never requested coverage, and 2) I actually meet the Group 8 requirements.
I would only use the VA as a last resort, although, if you're taking an expensive prescription medication, you can (usually) get it through the VA at a relatively low cost.
53 posted on 05/28/2014 7:04:52 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven
It seems that I fit in this category:

Veterans not eligible for enrollment: Veterans not meeting the criteria above:

Subpriority e: Noncompensable 0% service-connected

Subpriority g: Nonservice-connected

54 posted on 05/28/2014 7:12:08 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Enterprise
It seems that I fit in this category
Isn't it nice to fit in with others :)
55 posted on 05/28/2014 7:22:07 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven

HA! And it isn’t often that I DO fit in with others.


56 posted on 05/28/2014 7:29:09 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Red_Devil 232

You are getting a lot of good and bad info here.
If you are a Vet the VA will treat you. The VA has 8 different classes of Vets. You will initially be put in class 8. The lowest. You will be obligated to pay a copay for treatment which may or may not be paid by your insurance. You will also be allowed to get medication from the VA with a copay of 8 dollars a month. ( It may have recently been increased to 9 dollars). The prescription must be written by a VA doctor. I have taken my Doctors RX to the VA doctor and he will usually prescribe it. Beware some medications are not in the VA pharmacology and they will prescribe a alternative.
That being said as a boots on the ground VN Vet you fall into a special category. You will be evaluated for Agent Orange. Certain Diseases are presumptively attributed to agent Orange. The most common is type 2 Diabetes. A list of these diseases Can be found on the VA web site. If you suffer from any of these it is automatically considered service connected because of agent orange exposure.
Now the kicker is that VA Health Care people are different from the people that evaluate your your claim. A claim must be files to raise your status above class 8. There are numerous agencies that will help you file your claim even certain law firms. These agencies are prohibited by law from charging you for these services even the legal firms. A NOD ( notice of disagreement) can be filed if you disagree with the decision.
There is much more I could tell you bout the VA system.
I am a VN Vet with a service connected disability and I both love and hate the VA. It is a lot of bureaucratic BS but ultimately I have won every battle. I simple read their rules and regulation and make them follow them.
For you meeting a copy of your DD214 and a valid Photo ID is all you need. The DD214 will prove you are a Vet and prove you were boots on ground VN.
Good Luck
Contact me if I can be of further assistance.


57 posted on 05/28/2014 8:01:57 AM PDT by Rik0Shay
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To: JAKraig

Yes VA’s give asvgood and servicevas they can but they are over loaded
Va’s are stretched to the limit with actual combat injuries and with vets who have no other way to get help.
The poster had 2 other good options.

ANY appointment and care takes time and resources away fro, people who might need it more and who have no other way.
Why do that?


58 posted on 05/28/2014 8:13:49 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: RWGinger

Isn’t this the same as saying because I planned for my retirement I should forgo Social Security to insure the non-planners are taken care of.


59 posted on 05/28/2014 9:44:45 AM PDT by Rik0Shay
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To: Red_Devil 232

I reread your initial post and wanted to add a few comments.
Dental coverage is tough, It is only thru a narrow channel that you can get full coverage however as mention in post above you can get some dental coverage with with a premium around 40 dollars a month if you are enrolled in VA health care. Bring any prescriptions you have to the PCP (Primary Care physician) and see if he will prescribe them thru VA. Get used to the abbreviation you will encounter a lot of them.
Is you hip injury service connected in anyway? If it was documented in your military records that is good and almost a slam dunk. Depending on which area you are in a claim may take 6 to 18 months. Remember a claim is not for VA health care, It is for service connection. Once my Service connection was awarded all the money I had paid the VA for copay or medicine was refunded.
Any medication for a service connected problem has no copay.
any other medicine has a copay, however if you are awarded above a 30% disability all medicine is free regardless of service connection. Above 10% will get you vision care eye glasses and such. Hearing problems, VA is one of the best sources for hearing aids. Were you exposed to loud noises in Vietnam, Compare the entry physical hearing test to you discharge hearing test. A drastic drop will support a claim with proof of exposure to loud noises. The list goes on and on So when and if you decided to file a claim make sure you use a competent disability filer. You can find help at the VA or you local VFW or American Legion. In Texas we
have County VA agents that work for the County not the VA and they are usually pretty good.
Hope this helps.

One other thing bring a book to read while waiting for the Doctor. Be courteous but don’t take any crap. Just because someone at the VA tells you something, do not take it as Gospel. I have found them wrong at least 50% of the time. Not because they are bad people but the ones above them have misinformed them. By and large the people that you deal with at the VA are good caring people it is the Layers above them that is the problem. Their reporting system on how well they are doing is just like body count in Vietnam. Greatly exaggerated.


60 posted on 05/28/2014 10:19:11 AM PDT by Rik0Shay
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