It has been called “charity” for the past two-thousand years.
If the See wasn’t misinterpreted, then are the aforementioned fair game?
Ignore AP & the rest of the MSM who prefer to misquote Pope Francis on everything he says. I refer you to Ed Morrissey
I liked this line I saw a couple of days ago on Ed Morrisey’s Hot Air Column:
“How do you know Pope Francis is being misquoted? His lips are moving.”
Please read Ed’s column and why it is best to ignore the MSM which is NOT Pope Francis’ friend; he suggests that people read the speech rather than the coverage::
http://hotair.com/archives/2014/05/09/pope-francis-zacchaeus-and-legitimate-redistribution/
I heard they have some original Michaelangelos!
It’s a reasonable question. Walk the walk and not just talk the talk.
If one wants others to,give up their wealth, their wealth should be the first to go.
Let’s see, I wonder what the retail price of the Sistine Chapel ceiling by Michelangelo would be?
Kind of a silly comment realy...the treasures held in the Vatican are not expendable assets used to run the church. They are world treasures, held by the Vatican for the benefit of the world’s peope who can se and appreciate them. The Smithsonial Museum has many such treasures an for institutions like the Vatican and the Smithsonian to “cash out” their holdings to help the poor wouldn’t solve poverty for a week.
“Does a “legitimate redistribution” of wealth include the Vatican archives, Vatican library...?”
No. 1) Those treasures are not “wealth” but patrimony. 2) More “wealth” is made from holding on to them than selling them off. Some of the revenue made from their possession is used for charity to the poor.
Christ distributed salvation by willing self sacrifice
Pontius Pilate redistributed by crucifying Christ.
THE KEY BEING
You DISTRIBUTE what YOUR TO GIVE
but
You REDISTRIBUTE what OTHERS HAVE
REDISTRIBUTE is GIVING whats NOT YOURS in the first place..
I take the Pope’s remarks as a criticism of the United Nations.
About 90% of the money allocated by UN for Humanitarian and Economic Development aid from funds contributed by First World counties for redistribution to Third World counties is stolen, skimmed or purchased at inflated prices by UN employees,well connected grifters and the kleptocrats in the Third World.
UN aid contracting is basically a license to steal by the unscrupulous well connected in the feeding chain
Only about 10% at best actually ends up going to help the the intended recipients.
Pope is telling the UN to stop ripping off the charitable contributions sent to help the poor and needy in less advantaged countries
Why not include their banking, as well?
They are said to be worth $10 to $15 billion.
This sounds like the debate that raged in my house during my entire formative years. My mom was Catholic and my Dad brought up Baptist. She wanted 10% of the income to go to the church and charity, my dad said he gave at the office and would give more when and if he felt it was needed and he was able, and he wasn’t listening to the Priest until the Catholic Church used it’s assets to help the poor. My mom would say you don’t get rid of your history and past tradition when we can give now.
So I ended up a Catholic that doesn’t tithe but gives to charity regularly.
I think liberals need to learn to be more charitable with their own money. Most conservatives already are. I don’t want to bankrupt the Church because like it or not Atheism and Extremism are both industries that it takes money to combat. Still, the Church could tighten it’s belt a bit, but they do so much that people are not even aware of. Catholic charities, for one, does not just help Catholics.
Let’s trust government with the dispensation of our property. After all, in the 20th century, governments were responsible for the deaths of 260 million people.
Were these private individuals, or government people he was telling this to?
The phrase was “legitimate redistribution of benefits,” meaning that a country that has huge prosperity and also huge taxes, as Latin American countries do, should be able to have drinkable water and passable roads for its citizens. In Spanish or Italian, the word was not “REdistribution,” but a word equivalent to distribution or sharing.
I think the Pope is a bit of a statist, which is not a good thing, and is touchingly innocent in his reliance on the State to see to this. But on the other hand, he’s also calling on governments to remember that the point of all their taxing and enforcement powers is not to enrich themselves (which they all do, especially here in the US, where anybody who goes into government emerges as a millionaire) but to use this money to provide the benefits of development to the people of their country.
HA!
If you have no problem with an external agency deciding how to distribute your worldly goods then you have no reason to complain when some external agency decides how to distribute the goods owned by the Vatican.
when private people decide to give voluntarily it is charity.
when government confiscates money from private people and gives it to who they like, that’s not charity, that’s tyranny.
i have given this “pope” a lot of slack and benefit of the doubt. no more.