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Mercedes-Benz driver turns tables on carjackers, shoots both men dead...
Ny Dailynews ^ | 5/10/14 | BY ERIK BADIA , JOSEPH STEPANSKY , BARRY PADDOCK

Posted on 05/10/2014 4:10:23 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda

Mercedes-Benz driver turns tables on carjackers, shoots both men dead in the Bronx: cops The two men who were slain by the person they were trying to carjack were shot inside their car as they tried to flee from the vicinity of the Dyer Avenue Deli Grocery in Wakefield about 4:40 a.m. Friday, police sources said.

The victim of an attempted Bronx carjacking went berserk Friday, chasing down the thieves and shooting them dead, cops said. The 30-year-old man was driving a Mercedes-Benz SUV when he was approached by Jermaine Johnson and Kaiison Lewis outside the Dyer Avenue Deli Grocery in Wakefield about 4:40 a.m., police said.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/men-killed-bronx-incidents-man-custody-article-1.1785739#ixzz31JHt3D2L

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KEYWORDS: banglist; bronx; carjacking; guns; nyc; pierre; yanique
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To: Kenny Bunk

LOL! Excellent! I’ll go with that, plus how exactly was he able to purchase this Mercedes? What was the Gentlemans occupation by the way? Is he an investment banker or is he currently “unemployed at the moment”?


101 posted on 05/10/2014 10:51:01 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: Gaffer

Well your interpretation would be ignoring the law just like Obama does... The law is completely clear that if he did indeed chase them down and kill them h committed murder.

Your interpretation of ignoring the law because you don’t like it is exactly the kind of thing Obama and the left do.


102 posted on 05/10/2014 12:06:22 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: DMZFrank

Sorry but your argument is so off base legally that it’s comical, please go read up on second degree murder. Premeditation is not remotely required for a killing to be legally murder.

This guy, based on the story, is guilty of murder.

Whether the story accurately captures the events as the happened may be debateable, but if he did what has been alleged he committed murder, period.


103 posted on 05/10/2014 12:10:50 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Gaffer
He might be found to have or thought he has some sort of diplomatic immunity. Maybe from the UN or even Interpol? The driver, armed and carrying concealed? In the Bronx? Driver for whom? All is very vague.

"The unidentified Mercedes driver was taken into custody and has been uncooperative, cops sources said."

104 posted on 05/10/2014 12:34:46 PM PDT by Spitzensparkin1 (Arrest and deport all illegal aliens. Americans demand those jobs back! Hoorah, Arizona!)
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To: HamiltonJay

The fact that he “chased them down” is not in and of itself evidence of murder, 2nd degree or otherwise. Most jurisdictions allow fresh pursuit of an offender to recover your property when it has been taken in your presence, even though that may not be the wisest thing to do.

You sre not in most states allowed to use deadly force in defense of property alone outside the home, but lesser means of force are allowed to detain the offender for arrest by the police. It is simply unclear from the article as to whether or not events escalated to the point that deadly force was justified in defense of his person.


105 posted on 05/10/2014 12:43:51 PM PDT by DMZFrank
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
Legally, he is in deep sh!t as a private citizen for what he did.

If this part of the article is true, "Johnson and Lewis, who both lived in Mount Vernon, N.Y., tried to steal the SUV at gunpoint", I have no problem personally, at all, with what he did.

Thugs play by jungle rules, time we start playing by jungle rules too, it's eventually going to come to that.

106 posted on 05/10/2014 12:45:18 PM PDT by The Cajun (tea party!!!, Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert......Nuff said.)
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To: HamiltonJay

Besides I think it a far better thing that thugs live in fear of being offed in the commision of crime than the law abiding. Seems like a more natural order of the universe to me.


107 posted on 05/10/2014 12:46:48 PM PDT by DMZFrank
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To: shoff

Her confusion arouse concerning why the rental agency was going after her sister!
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Oh yes, that is a prevailing thought in TODAY’s society. I watch a ‘couple’ of the Judge shows (Judy, Alex and Kevin) and it is really amazing to hear the logic of people in regards to stuff that we take for normal, common sense.
The English and word usage is comical, ‘they’ make up words, have absolutely no regard for private property, sue their own parents and kids over nothing.....kind of ‘hard’ from someone whose basic mantra is ‘Don’t loan ANYONE money, especially family, unless you have an understanding with yourself that you aren’t getting it back’.
If it gets returned, fine - then it is a bonus.
Sue a ‘friend’ or family member..NO WAY, if I didn’t have it, you wouldn’t have gotten it.
And amazing how people will sit there on TV and admit to all sorts of crimes from Unauthorized use of vehicle to driving without insurance and/or license, welfare fraud...
Kind of like one of the old “Cops” stories where a ‘Suburban Housewife’ was in the ‘Hood’ and flagged down a cop complaining she had given this guy some money to get some pot and he fled...NOW she was wanting the cop to either get her money or pot.....
‘Roll Eyes and shake head in amazement’....


108 posted on 05/10/2014 1:14:09 PM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98)"Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until they speak.".)
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To: cripplecreek

What was the basis for the Federal charges? Did the thief fall in the doorway of a post office or something?


109 posted on 05/10/2014 1:57:15 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: HamiltonJay

At this point, yes.


110 posted on 05/10/2014 1:57:43 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: cripplecreek
Chasing them down is double murder anywhere.

Shouldn't be.
Black thugs are not the only ones susceptible to induced temporary insanity.

If there is a defense fund set up for this unwilling victim, I will certainly contribute to it!

In spite of the obvious sterling reputation of Jermaine, Kaiison and Yanique.

I might reconsider my strong opinion, on receipt of positive endorsements from the MENSA society.

As for the victim being "uncooperative," the strongest admonitions NEVER to talk to the police without a lawyer present, comes from ex-policemen, and I have always taken it seriously to heart. The victim is simply being unusually aware of his legal position. Good for him!

111 posted on 05/10/2014 3:12:11 PM PDT by publius911 ( At least Nixon had the good grace to resign!)
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To: nothingnew
"frightening"

...tanks....

112 posted on 05/10/2014 4:35:19 PM PDT by unread (Rescind the 17th. Amendment...bring the power BACK to the states...!)
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To: moehoward

“....4:40 AM, in a high crime neighborhood, exactly who was out and about to claim he went ‘berserk’.”

Cops. 24/7/365. The article certainly implies the “berserk” comment was made by someone in NYPD. Have to wonder if they’re not actually giving the shooter a “temporary insanity” defense.


113 posted on 05/10/2014 4:56:00 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: EDINVA

An excellant point counselor.


114 posted on 05/10/2014 8:31:44 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

UPDATE!

Victim of attempted carjacking charged with murder for killing would-be thieves

{snip}

Jeffrey Pierre, 33, who has prior arrests for robbery and marijuana, was charged with murder and criminal possession of a weapon Saturday, cops said.

Pierre? Haitian ? Pure speculation on my part.

Queue Seinfeld Donna Chang.

Donna Chang - you're not Chinese!

115 posted on 05/11/2014 2:36:59 AM PDT by csvset
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To: csvset

Charged with murder and practicing his 2nd amendment constitutional right which clearly states “shall not be infringed” but is infringed upon anyway because who cares about the constitution? I hate that city with every single fiber, every last atom, every last quark of my being. It is nothing but one huge liberal cesspool. I unfortunately grew up there and finally got smart a few years ago and moved out. Best thing I ever did. I tell people living in New York city was like living in North Korea but with food, even though you can only eat certain foods the city allows you to eat, because every single aspect of your life is regulated and controlled. It’s what happens when liberals are left to run amok with government. This guy Jeffrey Pierre, absolutely guaranteed 1000% he will be spending the next half a century in jail, if not more, and the city will not give one single solitary rats ass if he was the victim of a crime or not. The biggest mistake this guy made was sticking around because he is going to get screwed over from every angle in the worst way possible, already the press is doing it by constantly mentioning that the hijacker just had a baby boy, as if that has to do with anything, but they mention it anyway because that’s how liberals in NYC work: They make the crook out to be an angel and the victim to be the crook, they are hellbent on screwing over the crime victim as much as possible because that’s what these liberal pieces of pig vomit in NYC do every-single-time.


116 posted on 05/11/2014 8:05:58 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

I wonder why Pierre didn’t flee the scene? Bet he wishes he’d done so now.


117 posted on 05/11/2014 8:10:05 AM PDT by csvset
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To: EDINVA
No, Counselor.

The "Berserk" comment was meant to tip us off that the entire fandango was the work of the dangerous Norwegian Viking Gangs that use costumes, theatrical makeup, and dialect practice to convince all of us, and the cops, that other ethnic groups are responsible for urban crime and shootings.

If there is a Lutheran Church in your neighborhood, check out the Church Hall on nights when there is no moon. Getting high on Lutefisk and Akvavit, you will find your perpetrators getting ready for yet another heartless raid victimizing the innocent minorities, especially their women, children, and LGBTGs . ... to be blamed on other ethnic groups!

There is no end to their dastardly Viking flummery.

118 posted on 05/11/2014 1:08:27 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Take congress in 2014. Have a Constitutional Convention of the States. Save the Republic.)
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To: csvset; GrandJediMasterYoda; cripplecreek; yldstrk; DMZFrank; spacejunkie2001
Gentlepersons, I rests my case.

Jeffrey Pierre, 33, who has prior arrests for robbery and marijuana, was charged with murder and criminal possession of a weapon Saturday, cops said.

Please, no applause in the court. I did clerk for many years with Algonquin J. Calhoun ... "Springs you before the Fall." Unlike our POTUS, Algonquin and I have never been asked to leave the Bar. I assures you all that by the time we's through with young Jeff's deefense, he will not only be acquitted, he be made an Eagle Scout, and be awarded $50 Million for emotional distress.

CC:
The Most Reverend Alphonse Sharpton
The Incredibly Reverend Jesse Jackson
Mr. and Mrs. Martin

119 posted on 05/11/2014 1:21:11 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Take congress in 2014. Have a Constitutional Convention of the States. Save the Republic.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

At long last ... it’s not the Amish!


120 posted on 05/11/2014 1:21:35 PM PDT by EDINVA
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