Posted on 05/09/2014 6:19:54 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat
For a country where the national flag flies from front porches and convenience stores and where children recite the Pledge of Allegiance each morning at school, were remarkably resistant to the notion of being governed. In the fall of 2013, the Pew Research Center found that only three in ten Americans trust the federal government to do whats right most of the time. The self-conception of most Americans, with their visions of pioneers and plucky underdogs fighting for independence, is all about freedom. The flip side of that vision, however, is all about distrusting government.
And government, in US political discourse, is ideological. The right claims that excessive government hampers the ability of companies to create jobs; the left that it protects the public from the worst excesses of businesses. The divide is patently artificial: the vast majority of government economic policy draws no fire from conservatives. Still, by setting up government as a dirty word in their anti-Democrat campaigns, the Republicans can claim freedom as their brand.
But if you really want to talk about what it means to oppose the government, the place to start isnt with Republicans. Its with the one group in the US political landscape that absolutely promises to take our rhetoric about freedom seriously: libertarians. Libertarians really do believe that government is the problem, as Ronald Reagan said back in 1981, and theyve decided to get rid of it, or at least shrink it dramatically.
Enter Liberty Forum an annual conference organised by the Free State Project, a group of activists who are trying to get 20,000 libertarians to move to the state of New Hampshire, where I live. These are people who gladly pit themselves not just against the welfare state or the regulation of business, but against military spending, state-funded schools, federal highways and government-issued money.
The Free State Project began life in 2001 with a call-to-arms by Jason Sorens, then a political science PhD student at Yale. Sorens suggested that a few thousand activists could radically change the political balance in the small state. Once weve taken over the state government, we can slash state and local budgets, which make up a sizeable proportion of the tax and regulatory burden we face every day, he wrote. Furthermore, we can eliminate substantial federal interference by refusing to take highway funds and the strings attached to them.
Sorens views which focus on problems with taxes and regulations and dont dispute the governments role in protecting commerce and conducting foreign policy suggest a more-Republican-than-the-Republicans sort of outlook. But some people whove responded to his call subscribe to an entirely different ideology: an anarchism that sees government as a tool of wealthy capitalists. The rest fall somewhere in between. Free Staters say that what brings them together is a common belief that government is the opposite of freedom.
The crowd that gathered in February for Liberty Forum 2014 at the Crowne Plaza Hotel in Nashua was a pretty good reflection of the US libertarian movement: mainly male, and overwhelmingly white. A few people openly carried guns, which is thoroughly legal in New Hampshire.
One of the first speakers, Aaron Day, a Republican activist and member of the Free State Project board, railed against government plans to expand Medicaid. His PowerPoint flashed images comparing President Barack Obamas health insurance reforms to the Soviet famine of the 1930s, when Stalin shipped away Ukraines wheat, leaving its people to starve. Day announced hed be running for state Republican Party chair and called for everyone in the audience to seek local office. If I was looking for the embodiment of right-wing libertarianism, here he was, a true believer in cutting the government down to size from within starting with programmes that benefit the poor.
I meet conservatives whove moved towards a live-and-let-live attitude that calls for government to stay out of issues such as sex and drugs
Johnna and Cory Bartholomew, a couple from California who sat among the crowd watching Day, plan to join the influx to New Hampshire soon. Even at a glance, its not hard to recognise the Bartholomews as a military couple, despite the pink streaks in Johnnas hair. Cory wears a crew cut, and both of them radiate a friendliness rooted in bedrock self-confidence. For their 20th anniversary, they visited Hawaii. This year, for their 30th, they flew east for Liberty Forum, as a sort of final test before moving to the state.
The Bartholomews met as Mormon students at Brigham Young University in Utah. Over the years, their conservatism on social issues dropped away and they left the Church. Cory doesnt like to call himself an atheist. As an Air Force pilot whose job revolves around technology, he prefers scientist a believer in the empirically provable. Im not a person of faith, he says, Im a person of show me. I end up hearing many such stories at Liberty Forum: conservatives who say theyve slowly drifted from a focus on social issues towards a live-and-let-live attitude that calls for government to stay out of issues such as sex and drugs. But if Aaron Day comes across as essentially right-wing, the Bartholomews seem different. For one thing, they talk more about free speech than taxes.
Our kids grew up hearing us talk about politics, Cory told me. When they were small, he and Johnna had their three children memorise the preamble to the US Constitution, with its promise to secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity. Now in their 20s, two of their boys have taken up political activism against government overreach. Theyll protest against police cameras that photograph drivers licences at traffic lights, or theyll hold up signs warning drivers about a drunk-driving checkpoint ahead.
One day in 2011, the brothers donned the Guy Fawkes masks made famous by Anonymous and held up a huge sign bearing the message Taxes=Theft on a highway overpass. They got arrested after refusing to show their IDs to the cops. Eventually, two charges against them, relating to posting a sign on government property and wearing masks while committing a crime, were dropped. They ended up sentenced to probation for delaying an officer. To Johnna, the conviction was typical of a justice system that, despite its rhetoric, has little real respect for free speech: We think I have this little box of treasure called my rights, but the moment you bring one of those out and try to exercise it, people are afraid.
Their sons had already signed on for the Free State Project when the Bartholomews decided to follow their lead. Johnna says that her upbringing in the Mormon Church, founded by families who crossed a continent for their faith, inspires them and makes leaving their daughter and Johnnas mother behind seem more manageable. If you really believe in something and want to be part of something, then you leave; you leave what youre used to and you may go somewhere youre not so comfortable. This is, of course, what the Free State Project depends on people willing to adopt a frontiering mentality so that theyll leap cross-country to get beyond the current political landscape.
The Free State Project draws recruits with a mishmash of different philosophies, which isnt surprising given libertarianisms history. By some accounts, the first thinker to describe himself as libertarian was Joseph Déjacque, a mid-19th-century French anarcho-communist writer. Déjacques beef wasnt just with government, but with capitalist bosses and religious hierarchies. Any kind of authority was an assault on individual autonomy. He even opposed families, with their elevation of husband above wife and parents above children. For about a century, this is what people meant when they said libertarianism: a far-left vision of autonomous individuals working as equals.
Then, beginning in the 1950s, a new definition of libertarianism emerged in America, defining its love of freedom in ways that directly contradicted Déjacque. The new philosophy drew on the classical liberalism of Thomas Jefferson, filtered through an economic lens that made property rights central. This was the libertarianism of the Cato Institute think tank, formed in 1977 by economist Murray Rothbard, corporate right-wing superstar Charles Koch, and Edward Crane, a leader of the then-fledgling Libertarian Party. Here, the government was faulted not for standing with capital against the people but for getting in the way of progress by promoting socialist welfare systems.
To get a better handle on what sort of libertarianism was at play at Liberty Forum, I asked attendees what their ideal society would look like. The answer, for the most part, was that it would be completely different from the world we know. Drugs and prostitution would be legal. Education and medical care would be market commodities or gifts. In the absence of government support, individuals would be forced to help each other. Without liability protection or the ability to lobby for favours from the state, corporations as we know them would disappear in favour of smaller, more dynamic companies. The vision is so distant and theoretical that even Déjacque-style anarchists and Cato-esque reformers can work side by side in the same movement.
A good thing about working with libertarians is that no one expects to coerce you into participating in something you dont approve of
James Davis, who plans to move his family to New Hampshire this fall, believes in a libertarianism that looks a bit like Déjacques: he wants to free regular people from oppressive institutions. When his first child was born, Davis and his wife got interested in parenting theories that advocate giving children as much freedom as possible. We came upon these ideas of philosophical libertarianism, he said. If people dont trust adults, how can they trust children? The couple took over the management of a foundering summer camp in upstate New York and applied their ideas about freedom to it, giving campers as much leeway as possible to make their own choices. Its the sort of vision that progressives have promoted for decades through democratic schools such as Summerhill, in Suffolk, England, and also one that many Free Staters embrace by home schooling their children and letting them help organise their own educations.
Philosophically, Davis doesnt believe in government-funded benefits for the poor drawn from taxation and backed up by prisons and guns. Having worked in non-profit organisations, hes convinced that in a post-government society people will come through to help the needy without prodding. But he believes that society is a long way off. For now, hes moving to New Hampshire to be among a community of people who want to improve the world through voluntary action. I suspect itll be much like living anywhere, he said, but around people who inspire me to be better. Davis doesnt necessarily expect to encounter like minds everywhere, but says that a good thing about working with libertarians is that no one expects to coerce you into participating in something you dont approve of.
The Bartholomews share Daviss notion of building a better world outside government mechanisms. As a member of a local school board in California, Johnna recalls being faced with the question of whether to borrow money to pay for desperately needed repairs on a school. I said, definitely, this school needs help, but we havent asked one business, we havent asked one person, to voluntarily give us one dollar.
To long-time New Hampshire libertarian Jack Shimek, that focus on voluntary methods is the key to libertarianism. Shimek got interested in politics as a college student in Texas around 1969, a time when young US men worried less that the government would tax them too much than that it would ship them off to a jungle battlefield where they would die. A friend introduced him to Ayn Rands philosophy of radical, selfish individualism. Within a few years, he had moved to New York City and into Déjacques branch of libertarianism, to argue that the authoritarianism of capitalist bosses is inextricably connected to government tyranny.
Ayn Rands Objectivism contained a fatal flaw, says Shimek. She confused capitalism, a system that gives wealthy owners control over workers, with free markets, which depend on individual autonomy. Capitalists are always in favour of keeping their piece of the pie through political power, Shimek told me. When General Motors screws up, it has enough power to convince the government to bail it out. Another thing corporations can do, he says, is flood libertarian think tanks and magazines with money: The libertarian movement, originally radical, was invaded by conservative reformers. Behind that, says Shimek, are corporate funders with an agenda: They [just] want it to decrease regulation on them, they want it to lower taxes on them.
Shimek was already living in New Hampshire when Jason Sorenss idea of a Free State Project took hold. He was thrilled with the influx of people into the tiny libertarian community, but not with the focus on running for office and voting. I said, wait a minute, were libertarians, we dont believe in government.
For libertarians, Bitcoin is a technology with the potential to circumvent a lot of whats wrong with the world
At Liberty Forum, Shimek runs Alt Expo, an unofficial series of alternative programmes, with topics such as organic farming and local currencies. The idea is not to confront the government but to live outside it as much as possible. If the power of the state comes from coercion, creating alternatives uses a different kind of power, based in example and persuasion. Though this years Alt Expo was sparsely attended, Shimek said it had been a success anyway, because the official programming is now full of these kinds of ideas.
Plenty of people at Liberty Forum think electoral politics is a drag. Carla Gericke, president of the Free State Project, told me she finds politics soul-numbing. Sessions on farming and gardening concrete methods of evading government-subsidised industrial agriculture drew bigger audiences than the ones about lobbying or running for office. Ditto for presentations about technology, which expand the vision of voluntary action beyond government to a global scale. One session is run by two cousins with a start-up who envision a post-industrial economy where individuals trade goods, services and labour online, through portals such as Uber and Airbnb. Everyone is talking about Bitcoin. In the mainstream, the cyber currency comes up mostly as a curiosity, but at Liberty Forum its a technology with potential to circumvent a lot of whats wrong with the world. At one session, panelists wax poetic about paying friends for rides, patronising local businesses, and buying clothes from Australia without taxes, credit card fees, or any contact with the global web of government and private banks.
At another tech sessions, Jeffrey Tucker draws huge crowds. He wears a suit, bow tie, and a mischievous expression, and is prone to phrases such as outrunning troglodyte systems of power. Tucker points to his smartphone as the symbol of a new society, one with frictionless information exchange, free online education and peer-to-peer lending. To Tuckers mind, technology is transforming both corporate structures and banking, and politics simply doesnt much matter. The goal is simply to circumvent dull and lumbering government bureaucrats. Were going to displace all the institutions of the state, he promises gleefully.
By the second-to-last night of the forum, Cory Bartholomew has snapped selfies with a handful of people he calls his liberty heroes. People such as Cody Wilson, who helped invent the first plastic guns that can be produced on 3D printers, and Thomas Drake and Jesselyn Radack, former government employees who became whistle-blowers, exposing domestic government surveillance and the illegal interrogation of terror suspects. Their stories make Cory wonder if he was naive about the military earlier in his career.
Other delegates flock to an unofficial party at the Quill, a private club and meeting space inside an unmarked storefront in Manchester, New Hampshire. Downstairs, dance music plays and colourful lights throb between the old ceiling beams. Antigone Darling, a slight, 20-something podcaster whos the host of the party, hands out sex toys to anyone in her audience who yells loud enough: one to Amanda Billyrock, an anarchist who became a libertarian star after she met allegations of drunk driving with counter-allegations of police misconduct; another to Objectivist Girl, who wears dramatic eye make-up and makes videos explaining the philosophy of Ayn Rand.
Upstairs, a late-night dinner is for sale: grass-fed beef burger with grass-fed bacon and broccoli slaw salad technically illegal since the cook refuses to get a food service permit. A group of young men stand in a circle talking about their tech start-up, a company that facilitates the use of Bitcoin.
J J Schlessinger, the Quills manager, explains a plan to distribute blankets to homeless people who live near the club. Hes also interested in discouraging vandals, not by calling the cops but by keeping an eye on them, maybe asking if their mothers would approve of what theyre doing. Schlessinger uses the word love a lot. He runs the Quill out of love, and wants to help his neighbours with love. The important thing, he says, is for people to reach out to each other in person, not delegate the job to government.
Its easy to see the Free State Project as a sort of outsize version of the government-hating right. There are issues that libertarians and the left oppose together high defence spending, corporate subsidies but they are hard to get at: mostly legislated at the federal level and protected by wealthy interests. Its much easier to get elected to the local school board and slash local budgets, or to lobby the state legislature against the expansion of health benefits. Republican Party-style libertarians are thus much more visible, and they spend a lot of time trying to cut taxes and reduce spending, invoking the revolutionary spirit of 1776 as they go.
But, looking at the party at the Quill, theres the suggestion of another American myth: the one about pioneers, often bearing wildly idealistic notions, who come together to build new institutions. Anyone with a passing knowledge of US history knows how fraught with missteps and malice the realities of that process have been, but the myth is a powerful one: if we distrust the government, then we have to trust each other. Its a notion around which anarchists, Republicans and almost anyone else can find common ground, given sufficient optimism about building a new society.
As Liberty Forum winds down, Johnna and Cory Bartholomew are excited about moving. Johnnas just seen a panel of volunteers who started charitable organisations to encourage self-sufficiency, and she thinks its something shed like to do. This is the thing, ultimately, that seems to bring people to the Free State Project. They become libertarians because they hate taxes, or fear a police state, or distrust collusion between the state and corporate power. But they move to New Hampshire because they want, more than any of these things, to build something new together.
Without a doubt. Subject individual is almost surely a certifiable maniac!
Done. Welcome aboard :)
That’s because he modeled it after YOUR “masterpieces,” 12. That is PRECISELY your posting technique thrown back in your face. Enjoy.
I don’t think you understand stalking.
Stalking is when a freeper stalks another freeper from thread to thread carrying a grudge and an ongoing personal attack, it is not about posting on topics, a subject or topic, cannot be stalked.
You may notice that a number of libertarians have gotten on this thread as stalkers, posting only personal attacks, rather than restricting themselves to the thread topic.
For instance in you post, there isn’t anything that challenges any of my facts or posts, it is merely personal.
In fact, you have a ping list on a libertarianism, surely you must realize that doesn’t qualify as “stalking” a political issue.
Got a flash for ya, stud. Homosexuals have served in our military since its inception. Only they kept quiet about their sexual preferences because SERVING was so much more important to them. Many of them served well, even heroically. So, no, I do not even begin to care if some homosexuals want to serve, AS LONG AS they keep their preferences to themselves.
And I say this as a FLAMING HETEROSEXUAL, married to the finest woman EVER, as well as a retired United States Marine. What’s YOUR claim to fame? Have you served even ONE DAY in the armed services? Provably, that is, not in your imagination. Or are you still living in your mother’s basement, whipping out your screeds on her computer, and the internet service SHE provides? Tell us, 12.... Oh, wait. I just got it. 12 is your AGE!!!
See post 242. Please, oh please, don’t feed the troll. It gets some bizarre gratification by getting up your dander. It’s not interested in the truth, freedom or a reasonable discussion. If you want it to go back to the wilds, put that peanut-butter sandwich back in the bag and move on.
I stopped reading soon after. Although the thought of 200,000 libs moving to New Hampshire did happy me.
So you support Obama’s political position of allowing homosexuality in the military, that is very libertarian, and Romney also shared your politics on the issue, and the call to reverse centuries of American law.
Should the military recognize their marriages?
I'd sooner vote for a RINO (McCain, Rubio, Jeb...) than vote for a lib.
That's like saying, "I'd sooner eat lamb than red meat."
Thank you for you Excellent Posts on this thread.
You have said what I am thinking far better than anyway I could express.
Well done Finny, You Speak for me.
Gosh ... *gulp* ... I am honored and humbled. This means a lot to me, more than you know. Thank you so kindly for your words. And know that the regard is mutual.
You've made my day.
But your thoughts on Libertarianism mirror my own.
Ted Cruz and Sarah Palin are Conservative Libertarians, I wish more people would see that.
Libertarianism isn't the enemy.
I know this troll. I typically leave him alone but sometimes like to poke him with a stick. He’s still using the same circular logic in his arguments as the day he joined...
Actually they are social conservative Christians, and support DOMA and oppose gay marriage.
Palin is known to oppose homosexuals in the military.
They are Christians, not libertarians.
Did you actually READ my post and UNDERSTAND IT, or just spewing more of your usual bullbleep? I submit that it’s the latter.
A.) Homosexuals HAVE SERVED in our armed forces since AT LEAST 1775. Mostly they served as honorably as the next man. Some served heroically. We would have a real difficult time telling who was a homo and who was not in these cases, as they DID NOT REVEAL THEMSELVES AS HOMOSEXUALS. To them, service was more important than so-called sexual identity.
B.) The ones who outed themselves were rightly kicked out of the service.
See the difference now? Those in A.) served and I have no issue with it. Those in B.) we are better off without, as their sexual identity is their overriding concern in life, an attitude which can get folks killed dead.
Finny, you can write MY speeches ANYTIME...at least as long as you’re also a born-again, Bible-believing Christian as well!!! I appreciate your willingness to “take one for the team,” in order to show newbs that we are not ALL like those meatheads who were trolling here and on every single liberty-minded thread, and always with the same vile accusations.
It’s my considered opinion that Ansel12 and GeronL are quite possibly pedophiles, the way they harp on child porn. Possibly even homosexual pedophiles, who knws. They seem to sure find it interesting and exxxciting!! That tells a lot about them. I am also concerned that they are allowed to get by with that reprehensible behavior.
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