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The Questionable Link Between Saturated Fat and Heart Disease
Wall Street Journal ^ | 05/02/2014 | Nina Teicholz

Posted on 05/04/2014 12:04:14 PM PDT by Rusty0604

"Saturated fat does not cause heart disease"—or so concluded a big study published in March in the journal Annals of Internal Medicine. How could this be? The very cornerstone of dietary advice for generations has been that the saturated fats in butter, cheese and red meat should be avoided because they clog our arteries.

The new study's conclusion shouldn't surprise anyone familiar with modern nutritional science, however. The fact is, there has never been solid evidence for the idea that these fats cause disease. We only believe this to be the case because nutrition policy has been derailed over the past half-century by a mixture of personal ambition, bad science, politics and bias.

One consequence is that in cutting back on fats, we are now eating a lot more carbohydrates— ...Excessive carbohydrates lead not only to obesity but also, over time, to Type 2 diabetes and, very likely, heart disease.

The real surprise is that, according to the best science to date, people put themselves at higher risk for these conditions no matter what kind of carbohydrates... Yes, even unrefined carbs.

The second big unintended consequence of our shift away from animal fats is that we're now consuming more vegetable oils...All of these got a boost from the American Heart Association—which Procter & Gamble, the maker of Crisco oil, coincidentally helped launch as a national organization...but it brought many potential health problems in its wake.

Seeing the U.S. population grow sicker and fatter while adhering to official dietary guidelines has put nutrition authorities in an awkward position. Recently, the response of many researchers has been to blame "Big Food" ... but it is also fair to say that the food industry has simply been responding to the dietary guidelines issued by the AHA and USDA, which have encouraged high-carbohydrate diets...

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science
KEYWORDS: diet; health; heartdisease; saturatedfat
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To: 9YearLurker

Well I’d love to argue but my pizza with extra meat and cheese is ready. :)


81 posted on 05/04/2014 2:38:59 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

Enjoy it!


82 posted on 05/04/2014 2:42:28 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

Whole grains-and brown rice-are what our ancestors ate-the hulls were not removed, and the grain was not polished or bleached-so all the vitamins, fiber and other nutrients were intact.

Technology was developed to make white rice or bleached flour by tumbling the grains till the hulls came off and they were polished-then the resulting stuff was bleached, and you were left with an empty source of calories and carbs, but no real nutrition.

To boost the nutrition, modern mills infused the white rice and flour with small amounts of nutrients-unnaturally putting back a small amount of the good natural stuff they’d taken out. Hence, the term “enriched” bread or flour, or rice, which just means an inferior product to what nature provides.

I’ve found that a much smaller amount of whole grain bread or rice is more filling than a larger amount of that gooey, tasteless white crap, too.

I sometimes eat bread in the winter-bread that I make from scratch, with rye or other whole grains-I order them from a family mill here in Texas. I also bake sourdough French bread sometimes because I have a neighbor I barter it to for fresh yard eggs.


83 posted on 05/04/2014 2:47:45 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: SampleMan

“It’s hard for a carnivore to get fat.”

Agreed. I switched to making my own cat food made from whole ground chicken thighs (meat, bone, and skin) plus some organic chicken hearts and livers plus some supplements, and my girl cat immediately lost all of her excess weight, became energetic instead of lethargic, and my boy cat stopped dying from the allergies he developed from commercial cat food, gained back all of his lost weight and has never been healthier or happier. Both animals are about 13 now, and are healthier and more energetic than many 6 year old cats.


84 posted on 05/04/2014 2:47:48 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: BobL

“They can speak for themselves. I’m done with carbs as a major ingredient of my diet. Yes, once in a while I might have rice, but still no bread, potatoes, extra sugar, etc.”

Similar here, but still eat some brown rice, beans, and squashes. No fruit though. And NOTHING with any form of sugar.


85 posted on 05/04/2014 2:49:56 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: InterceptPoint

Natural feeding for cattle means grass fed or pasture grazing.


86 posted on 05/04/2014 2:51:27 PM PDT by upsdriver
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To: driftdiver

The gov’t does influence peoples diets. And grant money given to “experts” to research the benefits of certain foods paid for by producers and/or companies that will benefit with a certain outcome of the study, then they send lobbyists to Washington so they will influence and “educate” the public.


87 posted on 05/04/2014 2:54:31 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: ExTexasRedhead
Prescription medications with their numerous side effects don’t do jack for you either.

IMO, many prescriptions are unnecessary and quite harmful. They deplete the body of many nutrients causing even greater problems long term.

88 posted on 05/04/2014 2:54:31 PM PDT by upsdriver
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To: neal1960

“Triglycerides are still through the roof. Tying to cut the carbs. Bread and sweets are my downfall.”

You REALLY need to give up white foods, fruit, and sugar. Sugar is tough because it’s addictive and takes about two weeks for the cravings to subside. Also, you can’t really have any at all, including fruit, or soon you’ll be addicted again.

If you do this, your Triglycerides should plummet, and high Triglycerides are a MUCH bigger predictor of heart disease than cholesterol, which as it turns out is fundamentally unrelated to heart disease.

My cardiologist told me that he knows that stains lowering cholesterol is not why they appear to work, because several other non-statin cholesterol lowering drugs have NO impact at all on heart disease and overall mortality. He thinks statins may have an inflammatory effect but admits he doesn’t really know why they appear to work. At any rate, I refuse to take statins, no matter what.


89 posted on 05/04/2014 2:55:33 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: mylife

Carbs that aren’t refined and still have some fiber in them are better for the digestive system.


90 posted on 05/04/2014 2:55:48 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Texan5

Yes, it is what our ancestors ate for about 10,000 years back.

And whole grains are more filling and they spike our blood sugar less.

But we had ancestors for hundreds of thousands of years before that who did not eat grains, and the argument against whole grains now, whether right or wrong, is described in the link I offered above.


91 posted on 05/04/2014 2:58:21 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Texan5

Do you have a good recipe for sourdough bread you care to share?


92 posted on 05/04/2014 2:59:59 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

And they do not convert to sugar that quickly.


93 posted on 05/04/2014 3:00:12 PM PDT by mylife
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To: catnipman

Sounds like your kitty cats were an inversion of the old Jack Sprat nursery rhyme.


94 posted on 05/04/2014 3:01:26 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: catnipman

Sounds like your kitty cats were an inversion of the old Jack Sprat nursery rhyme.


95 posted on 05/04/2014 3:01:26 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: catnipman

What supplements did you add to the cat food? I’ve been thinking about making my own (for my cats that is).


96 posted on 05/04/2014 3:01:57 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: mylife

Let me put it this way. If your father has high cholesterol, chances are very good you will, too. My cardiologist told me “You can stop smoking. You can start exercising. You can change your eating habits. But you can’t change who your daddy was.”

I take niacin and it helps some. I’ve taken every statin known to man with very little or no results. Lipitor put me in the hospital with liver problems. I decided the side effects weren’t worth it. And my cardiologist agrees.


97 posted on 05/04/2014 3:02:16 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: VerySadAmerican

High cholesterol levels may very well be genetic, but triglycerides absolutely respond dramatically to diet.


98 posted on 05/04/2014 3:04:25 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: VerySadAmerican

My cholesterol is normal.


99 posted on 05/04/2014 3:05:03 PM PDT by mylife
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To: VerySadAmerican; mylife

Sorry—I meant my post above for mylife


100 posted on 05/04/2014 3:05:24 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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