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Rubin 'Hurricane' Carter Dead
Daily Beast ^
| April 20, 2014
Posted on 04/20/2014 8:01:56 AM PDT by SMGFan
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posted on
04/20/2014 8:01:56 AM PDT
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SMGFan
To: SMGFan
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posted on
04/20/2014 8:07:50 AM PDT
by
deport
To: SMGFan
Don’t know the story. For that I have a question: How bad was his rap sheet? If it was his first and only incident then indeed, justice did not prevail. But if like too many others, he kept getting into trouble beforehand I say ‘you win some, you lose some.’ There’s too much power in victimization.
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posted on
04/20/2014 8:08:09 AM PDT
by
DIRTYSECRET
(urope. Why do they put up with this.)
To: SMGFan
I always think of Wooderson entering the Emporium [Dazed and Confused] whenever I see his name.
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posted on
04/20/2014 8:11:38 AM PDT
by
FlJoePa
("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
To: SMGFan
Was it ever reliably shown that he was wrongly convicted or is it simply that some,including that judge,believe there was insufficient evidence..."beyond a reasonable doubt"...that he was guilty.That is...was there compelling evidence that he was in Cleveland...or in prison...or in church (with many unbiased witnesses to his presence there)...or in the hospital...when the murders happened? Or are there reliable accounts of one or more of the jurors saying "let's get that n*gger"? If any of those things are true then it's easy to see how he might have been...or how he was *clearly*...innocent.
Otherwise,I skeptical.
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posted on
04/20/2014 8:13:32 AM PDT
by
Gay State Conservative
(Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
To: DIRTYSECRET
From what I remember he probably did do it.
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posted on
04/20/2014 8:14:13 AM PDT
by
Eagles6
(Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where?)
To: FlJoePa
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posted on
04/20/2014 8:15:07 AM PDT
by
SunTzuWu
To: SMGFan
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posted on
04/20/2014 8:15:37 AM PDT
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Beowulf9
To: SMGFan
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posted on
04/20/2014 8:19:10 AM PDT
by
Kenny500c
To: SMGFan
Immortalized in a Bob Dylan songWilliam Zanzinger killed poor Hattie Carroll...
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posted on
04/20/2014 8:19:15 AM PDT
by
MUDDOG
To: SMGFan
Dylan wrote a great song, but the real life coda was disappointing.
From Wikipedia: According to Carolyn Kelley, a 61-year-old from Newark working as a bail bondswoman in 1975, she was asked to get involved in the effort to win a new trial for Mr. Carter. She devoted more than a year to raising funds for Mr. Carter. Mr. Carter's appeal was upheld. In March 1976, Mr. Carter was released on bail to await a new trial. A few weeks later, Mrs. Kelly says the boxer beat her into unconsciousness in his hotel room during a meeting she sought with him over affairs relating to her involvement with his cause. Rumors of the beating got out. Finally, Chuck Stone, a columnist for the Philadelphia Daily News, broke the story of the alleged beating in a front-page article. After Mr. Stone's column ran, the alleged beating became a national story. Mr. Carter's celebrity support melted away."
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posted on
04/20/2014 8:19:53 AM PDT
by
Reo
(the 4th Estate is a 5th Column)
To: DIRTYSECRET
How bad was his rap sheet? He was no angel, that's for sure.
To: Gay State Conservative
Was it ever reliably shown that he was wrongly convicted ... Not according to ...
Top 10 Myths about Rubin Hurricane Carter ... "The Movie isn't the true story. The Song isn't the true story. 'Hurricane' Carter hasn't told you the truth."
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posted on
04/20/2014 8:20:09 AM PDT
by
oh8eleven
(RVN '67-'68)
To: Gay State Conservative
I checked his story out when the movie was released - it looked to me like he probably was guilty.
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posted on
04/20/2014 8:23:26 AM PDT
by
skeeter
To: SMGFan
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posted on
04/20/2014 8:24:26 AM PDT
by
Eagles6
(Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where?)
To: MUDDOG
William Zanzinger killed poor Hattie Carroll... I believe Dylan took extreme liberties with that story also.
I like Bob a lot, but he liked to go for the emotional response, as an artist tends to do. He's not historian.
To: ClearCase_guy
He said he got a lot of his political info back then from his girlfriend Suze Rotolo.
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posted on
04/20/2014 8:36:26 AM PDT
by
MUDDOG
To: SMGFan
Well the whole episode did result in one of the greatest Bob Dylan songs being written. Hopefully Bob shared some royalties with Hurricane after he got out of prison.
To: MUDDOG
Yeah. And Rotolo was a complete apologist for Castro and other collectivist nonsense. She never wised up.
To: ClearCase_guy
Speaking of Dylan protest songs of the justice system, I really liked Fairport Convention’s cover of “Percy’s Song.”
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posted on
04/20/2014 8:44:41 AM PDT
by
MUDDOG
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