Posted on 04/15/2014 4:35:55 PM PDT by SgtBob
U. S. Constitution
Looks good to me and yer gram mer ain’t tooo bad neither.
Well, let’s see:
House - Terms last 2 years IIRC
Senate - 1/3 every 6 years IIRC
So congress is the opposite of Progress * (50% uninformed voters / 3.14) + Vote Fraud^3 = roughly 400 years.
We are so screwed!
An Article V Convention of the States is very small scoped.
Let’s say 32 States legislatures, represented by the people of the 32 States, decided the U. S. Congress needs to be term limited. That would be the only Amendment to be debated...the U. S. Congress has no voice, whatsoever; No other Amendments can be debated, whatsoever.
In an earlier post I said the “Eat Yer Own Garbage to Stop Landfill Expansion Amendment” will not be heard.
This would not be a Constitutional Convention. This is a group of States, with the foresight of the Founding Fathers, to amend the Constitution without the interference of an out of control, lawless, Congress.
Shout back if ya need more help;-)
I must respectfully disagree. We need a CoS desperately. We are very late. And not because there is anything wrong with the current constitution, the wrong lies in the federal government itself and the people who make it up. The overall intent of the CoS is to empower the states to reign in the federal government and force it to follow the constitution. It’s that simple, to abide by and enforce the constitution. Just as you stated.
Just one question FReeper, do you really think they will let you leave?
Well, Sir, yer mathematical skills astound me...=roughly 400 years extrapolates to Article V....I need ta take a sip of that water in yer pretty neighborhood lake;-)
I worked hard on my grammarisms coming up in the primary schoolin’;-)
Lunatics? I don’t think so. Read the Federalist Papers.
Arghh. Youse needs to keep the sabers and cutlasses well oiled to prevent rust don’t ya know? It’s ah lil harder to poke out yer eye within a longer blade. arghh.
Oh, I did. You might consider reading the series Publius and I put together on them over 14 months here on FR. It's HERE. Let us know what you think.
This Jarhead will take a long rifle and bayonet over a saber anyday...easier ta shave with;-)
I think they will.They despise us *at least* as much we despise them.The problem in *this* divorce,like many,will be $$$.
But if I'm wrong,mine was the last BCT cycle at Ft Knox (in '69) to qualify with the M-14 and the first to qualify with the M-16.And I did pretty well for a boy from the suburbs of Boston.And I'm prepared to practice to refresh my skills.
“some posts say I failed”
Some folks would bitch if you hung em with a new rope.
I am glad we share this foxhole.
Might I suggest you get familiar equipment, and practice...unless your state disallows such activities. The latter being the case, I suggest that you move...
“... Con Con? No thanks. ...”
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No one is talking about a “constitutional convention”.
An Article V Convention of States has no authority to re-write or even to amend the Constitution.
Please read post # 16
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3144809/posts?page=16#16
That’s why I got the Gold Star from My Math Teacher.
And the lake H2o is not the secret;)
But if You think that some will help I’ll send a Mason Jar full.
Well then you have little knowledge of the problems we face and the root cause of those problems.
You see we ARE following the 17th amendment to the letter and it's nearly singularly destroying the Republic. So there is reason number one. The commerce clause was included for very specific and limited reasons and was not meant as authorization for the federal government to regulate every damn bit of economic activity in the nation. So there's reason number two and there are plenty of other areas that need to be addressed.
For example, here is the summary of Florida's bill, HM609:
<>Article V Constitutional Convention: Establishes qualifications of delegates & alternate delegates to Article V constitutional convention; provides for appointment of delegates by Legislature; authorizes Legislature to recall delegate & fill vacancy; authorizes presiding officers to call special legislative session to carry out certain provisions relating to appointments; requires delegates to sign oath; provides for instructions to delegates; establishes circumstances under which convention vote is declared void; provides circumstances under which delegate's appointment is forfeited; establishes circumstances under which application to call Article V convention ceases to be continuing application & is deemed to have no effect; provides penalties; establishes delegate advisory group.<>
<>We have something that works.<>
I copied the following from a nathanbedford post:
In order to believe that a Convention of the States presents a greater threat to liberty than our current state of politics one must believe:
1. The Constitution is not being amended by three women in black robes +1 liberal in black robes +1 swing vote on a case by case basis.
2. The Constitution is not being amended at the caprice of the president by executive order.
3. The Constitution is not being amended at the caprice of the president when he chooses which laws he will “faithfully” execute.
4. The Constitution is not being amended daily by regulation done by an unaccountable bureaucracy.
5. The Constitution is not being amended by simply being ignored.
6. The Constitution is not being amended by international treaty.
7. The Constitution is not being amended by Executive Order creating treaty powers depriving citizens of liberty as codified in the Bill of Rights.
8. The Constitution is not being amended by international bureaucracies such as, UN, GATT, World Bank, etc.
9. The Constitution is being amended by the Federal Reserve Bank without reference to the will of the people.
10. The federal government under our current “constitutional” regime has suddenly become capable of reforming itself, balancing the budget and containing the debt.
11. The national debt of the United States is sustainable and will not cause the American constitutional system and our economy to crash and with them our representative democracy, the rule of law, and the Constitution, such as it is, itself.
12. The Republican Party presuming it gains a majority in the House and the Senate and gains the White House will now do what is failed to do even under Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush and balance the budget, reduce the debt, stop regulating, reform the tax system, end crony capitalism, appoint judges who will not betray us and, finally, listen to the people.
13. That a runaway Convention of the States will occur, that it will persuade the delegates from conservative states, that it will be ratified by three quarters of the states’ legislatures among whom conservatives control a majority, and the end result will somehow be worse than what we have now.
14. If we do nothing everything will be fine; if we keep doing what we have been doing everything will be fine; we have all the time in the world.
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