Posted on 03/31/2014 10:55:40 AM PDT by ethical
Yeah, they would. There is a lot at stake.
But this theory is that one of the survivors drowned her or otherwise killed her. That doesn’t work if the plan was to kill everyone.
That’s not what I said. I noted that the moderator first gagged me (I’ll add here that this was at the same time that the fogbower ringleader said that her “sock puppets” were getting a rest - and about the same time that you, mr humblegunner, were acting really frustrated with me...),
then refused to let me post a new thread about new content...
then broke FR protocols to put my “Bloggers” thread into “Breaking News”....
then gagged at least one of my supporters....
then changed the name of the thread every half-hour or so...
while the fogblower sock puppets came in and took over the thread (while on fogbow they were discussing what should be said next, and voila! it appeared...)...
and then closed the thread when people came to challenge the sock puppets, deleting the comments at the end so that all that stands is the sock puppet theatrics that had been staged, from start to finish, by the fogbowers.
THAT’s what I’m talking about.
That all A-OK with you, humblegunner? Is that what Free Republic is all about, in your estimation?
Thanks, nully.
Who needs man-parts when you’ve got anonymity - outside of the reach of anybody knowing who you are so you can pull these kinds of stunts with no recourse for the Freepers except to complain and/or cut off donations?
The Founding Fathers knew that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Without the disinfecting power of light, germs grow. And kill.
And if the moderator in question doesn’t like me talking about this they have the absolute power to get rid of me on this board. We all know that. If I disappear people can guess what may have happened. And they may be able to guess the immediate reason why. The question is why this person is a moderator on Free Republic, after the displayed collusion with fogbow.
There are a number of possibilities, including that the plane was sabotaged, that a smooth ditching was anticipated (or actually, that she was poisoned and the disabled plane, either successfully landed at the destination and unable to take off, or landed with a problem precluding takeoff) would further delay any medical assistance for the poisoned Fuddy). Keep in mind the initial delay, and how that would have brought Mr. Murphy into the plan, should there have been one.
I won't say it is impossible that Fuddy's death is pure coincidence and the result of natural causes, but Considering the sheer convenience of having a silenced witness for powers which stand to gain greatly from her demise, there is reason enough to suspect foul play.
Motive
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To quote you, that's not what I said.
I wouldn't know what was discussed elsewhere or even what a fogblow is.
My point is that for anything that happens, real or perceived, you handily assign some conspiratorial attributes to it and weave it into your tapestry of persecution and intrigue.
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, and your declaration that one of the FR moderators is, in your kinder estimation, a "shill", or worse - part of the Obama regime's cyber-minions clearly puts you well into the realm of "kook".
Now, you can sputter about Alinsky and Obama and how Microsoft messed with your computer and mystery divers and midget caskets and all that.. everyone needs a hobby.
But honestly.. don't assign sinister motives to folks who don't buy all that mess.
“She wasn’t having a cow about it or anything,” said Hollstein.
It’s okay , operation Stalk Butter found it. :)
The image with the light area around the contour of the plane is at http://khnl.images.worldnow.com/images/3099785_G.jpg
The image with the other signs of photoshopping is at http://khnl.images.worldnow.com/images/3099786_G.jpg You can see some of the same lightening around the contour of the plane, on the left side of the image. All the Lang photos can be accessed at http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/slideshow?widgetid=99139
At http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2014/02/23/a-closer-look-at-langs-photos/ I noted some of the evidence of photoshop and/or this being a different plane.
Actually the quote was about Nixon, and the "media person" was Pauline Kael, who always denied the quote.
Thanks Butter,
there are anomalies. ..Will look at them later. :)
The extra people in the water seem to be hanging around each passenger as if the goal is to keep them safe. I believe this was planned specifically to keep everybody safe but to provide an excuse for Fuddy to end up “dead”. Her heart is healthy, according to her brother, so if they wanted it to be a heart attack, etc they had to have some kind of traumatic cover story. Or they could claim that she was caught in the fuselage. It seems like they got their cover stories screwed up though because they tried claiming both.
And the media reported a death before anybody could have known that. At 5:17 the USCG was calling somebody in “critical” condition. That’s right around the time they reported that all the passengers were accounted for on shore, and Fuddy was the last passenger picked up by the UZSCG, according to the news interviews with the rescue swimmers (although the USCG case report doesn’t fit that account either). And around that time they kept saying that 8 were non-critical. So unless they’re admitting to 10 people on board, that “critical” person had to be Fuddy. There’s no way the people involved would have LEGITIMATELY reported to the media that one was dead by 4:40, when that media report came out.
And I won’t even go into how mixed-up the claims of who picked up who are. Like I’ve said before, almost EVERY detail of this story is contradicted at least once if not several times in the official records and the accounts by the “eyewitnesses”.
I’ve had a very experienced pilot tell me that if his conscience would allow him to do it he would have no problem faking an engine failure, and this is precisely the layout he’d use if he wanted everybody to survive. (BTW, the NTSB says that about 8% of all the plane crashes they investigate are ruled to be deliberate - either for insurance fraud or for more nefarious reasons. And with the NTSB-investigated engine-failure crashes this Cessna 208B has had (2 in the 30 or so years before 2011, and 2 within 50 days of each other in 2011), there were no casualties until this one, and this one isn’t even claimed to be from injuries from the crash).
You can make it look like an engine failure by turning off the fuel (creates a warning) and/or going slowly enough that the stall warning goes off (which is what is most likely heard in the Puentes video). He’d do it right after takeoff, close to shore, and get as close to shore as possible so the people who were supposed to survive could make it to shore (as did Hollstein, and there’s another gal behind Puentes who is awfully close to shore, and the reports from the Molokai lookout tower and from medics on-scene at the airport are that more than just Hollstein swam to shore - indicating that even they knew there were extra people out there in the water. In fact, one of the CAD communications says that flat-out, that he didn’t think everybody on shore was among the people listed as on the plane...)
This being a planned ditching, with extra people on board in the cargo area and/or delivered to the area by aircraft present at the time, to keep the other passengers safe, would explain the things we see - that don’t make sense if this was a real accident. Most of all, it fits what’s in Puentes’ actual video, heavily edited and aired by ABC.
The “moderator” did very little of that. I’m the culprit on most of it. Continue posting nutcase conspiracy garbage to FR, I might take it further.
Why did that FR moderator go out of the way to break FR protocols and put a blog post in “Breaking News”?
How often does a moderator make a point to change the title of a thread every half-hour or so?
Why was I gagged, at the precise time as the ringleader at fogbow, who brags about her “sock puppets”, said her “sock puppets” were “having a rest”?
Why was one of my supporters gagged when the “sock puppets” were overrunning the thread that was having its name changed all the time?
Why was the thread left standing to view without allowing any more posts once people arrived to challenge the “sock puppets”? The posts challenging the “sock puppets” were deleted and used as an excuse to lock the thread before anybody had a chance to come in and challenge the “revised reality” that the fobgblowers had set up in that thread - allowing for the mantra you hear now: that “everybody” knows my claims have been refuted already. Funny how that happens...
Genuine Freepers are not stupid. They saw what happened. It’s time to call a spade, a spade. There is a moderator here who is working with fogbow. And in case people don’t realize it, the fogblowers are constantly bragging about being their “sock puppet” accounts. They talk about throwing in some “crazy garbage” imbetween their “reasonable claims” so they can keep people believing that they are real Freepers and not out to sabotage this place. This is exactly what Van Jones was talking about - people posing as conservatives so they can change the perception of what people are really thinking.
And at fogbow you can see the crowning glory of the little stunt they pulled here. They are saying that even Freepers know I’m crazy, etc.... All as a result of a moderator here keeping the real Freepers from being a counterbalance to the fogbow trolls/sock puppets. Through the UNETHICAL practices I mentioned above, which are antithetical to everything Free Republic stands for.
This is not what Freepers contribute in the Freepathons to see happen. If they wanted to hide the truth and shut up the people coming forward with evidence, they’d contribute to ABC. Like the Freeper who warned ABC to pixelate their videos.
The quickest way to rob a bank is to disable the alarm system without anybody knowing you’ve done it. The most dangerous alarm system there is, is one that people wrongly believe is still turned on. The regime is not stupid. They need Free Republic to appear to be intact, while actually infiltrated by government minders. Minders who will do what the fogbowers are interested in.
And there it was, right in front of us all. Freepers who saw what happened, now you know why. Now you know how and when. What you don’t know is who. We’re not allowed to know that.
You posted the thread to Breaking News?
You wouldn’t allow me to post a new thread about new content?
You changed the title every half-hour or so?
You gagged people?
You gagged me on Saturday morning?
You closed the thread once people appeared to challenge the “nobody believes you” fogbow hype?
If so, why would you do any of those things?
Don’t let the door hit ya.
It was garbage.
If it was garbage then Freepers would have found that out and debunked it. Freepers are the best researchers. Or they have been in the past. If they’re not allowed to continue to be, then Free Republic has lost its saltiness.
Garbage is garbage. Why waste our time and resources on garbage?
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