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With Sobering Science, Doctor Debunks 12-Step Recovery
NPR ^ | March 23, 2014

Posted on 03/23/2014 4:04:01 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Since its founding in the 1930s, Alcoholics Anonymous has become part of the fabric of American society. AA and the many 12-step groups it inspired have become the country's go-to solution for addiction in all of its forms. These recovery programs are mandated by drug courts, prescribed by doctors and widely praised by reformed addicts.

Dr. Lance Dodes sees a big problem with that. The psychiatrist has spent more than 20 years studying and treating addiction. His latest book on the subject is The Sober Truth: Debunking The Bad Science Behind 12-Step Programs And The Rehab Industry.

Dodes tells NPR's Arun Rath that 12-step recovery simply doesn't work, despite anecdotes about success.

"We hear from the people who do well; we don't hear from the people who don't do well," he says.

Interview Highlights

On Alcoholics Anonymous' success rate

There is a large body of evidence now looking at AA success rate, and the success rate of AA is between 5 and 10 percent. Most people don't seem to know that because it's not widely publicized. ... There are some studies that have claimed to show scientifically that AA is useful. These studies are riddled with scientific errors and they say no more than what we knew to begin with, which is that AA has probably the worst success rate in all of medicine.

It's not only that AA has a 5 to 10 percent success rate; if it was successful and was neutral the rest of the time, we'd say OK. But it's harmful to the 90 percent who don't do well. And it's harmful for several important reasons. One of them is that everyone believes that AA is the right treatment. AA is never wrong, according to AA. If you fail in AA, it's you that's failed.

On why 12-step programs can work

The reason that the 5 to 10 percent do well in AA actually doesn't have to do with the 12 steps themselves, it has to do with the camaraderie. It's a supportive organization with people who are on the whole kind to you and it gives you a structure. Some people can make a lot of use of that. And to its credit, AA describes itself as a brotherhood, rather than a treatment.

So as you can imagine, a few people given that kind of setting are able to change their behavior at least temporarily, maybe permanently. But most people can't deal with their addiction, which is deeply driven, by just being in a brotherhood.

On a psychological approach to addiction

When people are confronted with a feeling of being trapped, of being overwhelmingly helpless, they have to do something. It isn't necessarily the "something" that actually deals with the problem ... Why addiction, though, why drink? Well, that's the "something" that they do. In psychology we call it a displacement, you could call it a substitute ...

When people can understand their addiction and what drives it, not only are they able to manage it but they can predict the next time the addictive urge will come up, because they know the kind of things that will make them feel overwhelmingly helpless. Given that forewarning, they can manage it much better.

But unlike AA, I would never claim that what I've suggested is right for everybody. But ... let's say I had nothing better to offer: It wouldn't matter — we still need to change the system as it is because we are harming 90 percent of the people.


TOPICS: Education; Health/Medicine; Science
KEYWORDS: 12step; aa; alcoholism; atheist; careerladder; heisfullofcrap; nprbullcrap; nprsux; purebsfromnpr; rationalrecovery; science
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To: nickcarraway
One of them is that everyone believes that AA is the right treatment. AA is never wrong, according to AA. If you fail in AA, it's you that's failed.

I've never heard anyone ever utter these notions.

81 posted on 03/24/2014 6:18:35 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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See okkev68’s post just above yours. “You fail because you haven’t reached your low” is about as “blame the addict,” “you failed because you are a failure, not AA” as you can get.

The data are what they are - AA has around a 10% effectiveness rate. Anecdotal reports of it working for this person or that person or why certain people don’t like AA are just that, anecdotal and thus highly subject to personal biases, agendas, and the like (aside from the fact that depending on the sample size, those people who report success could very well be in that 10%).

That said, I would argue that most people who are involved with AA truly want to help. The thing to do, in my opinion, is teach them to value what works, not just what they know. If certain things aren’t sufficient to produce the desired change, be open to including other things that can produce the change. God gave us a great many tools (not just faith but knowledge and the drive to understand the world around us) - there is nothing wrong with using both faith and our knowledge of how the world works (e.g., contingency management) to bring about the change we desire.


82 posted on 03/24/2014 7:48:24 PM PDT by goonie4life9
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