Good shoot by cop. Good riddance to roid-rage drunk.
BTW....cop was unconcious when help arrived. Required surgery.
Here is picture of the cop. The front of his face looks like the back of Zimmerman's head.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itPY54C_guM
While being beaten, Kansas City police officer shoots suspect
Will his buddies buy him a round of drinks for this?
I think he was gonna say, “Dont fight the cop or he will shoot you.”
Don’t pick a fight with a gun. Suicide by cop.
As someone else has noticed, the final situation is a lot like the Trayvon Martin / George Zimmerman confrontation.
Tag him and bag him. He was clearly stronger than the officer and had the cop not shot the guy, he himself might have been killed. The cop did right IMHO.
Why did the security guard (off duty LEO) attempt to arrest this guy?
He was off duty. Working for someone other then the City though in his uniform.
He left the place he was working to walk after the man even though the man at that time was seemingly doing nothng but walking down the street.
Having read the story and watched the video, I have to say the shootings looks completely justified. As another poster mentioned, it looks an awful lot like what was described in the Zimmerman case. That guy was wailing on the cop when he got shot.
And, is it me, or are the people taking the video kind of d-bags? You see a couple struggling with a subject, the cop asks you to call for help, and you stand there and critique the cop’s techniques. I’m not saying they should have physically intervened, but you can film and call 911 at the same time, you dooshes. Also, saying “don’t fight the cop” is usually not very effective in stopping people willing to beat up a cop.
At any rate, I’m sorry the guy died, but you can’t start Trayvonning an armed man, much less a cop, and not expect consequences.
So the firefighter beat up a cab driver, almost gets into a fight with some guys who came over the help the driver, starts a fight with an off-duty cop and almost beats him to death.
But the firefighter’s wife says he wasn’t drunk, so he can’t even blame the booze. Wonder how many other fights he’d been in.
The Cop was working as Security at the hotel. What are the laws regarding arrest by a Security Officer in that State? Once he puts on a Security Uniform does he lose his powers cited to off duty cops?
Different places in the world have differing arrest laws and citizen’s power of arrest. Just curious as here in Australia even though we have the right to make a citizen’s arrest it can be a minefield if not done correctly and in this case once the felony had ceased it is better to let the perp walk if they insist and give the cops the information on the guy - most don’t know this and will usually follow instruction.
Mel
Don’t know what led up to that but, looks justified.to me.
If you have good cause to fight a uniform you better win and subdue him.
You hit any man in the face and it’s gonna end badly.
Sorry about the new bride’s loss.
Justifiable homicide. Open and shut.
Wow!, sad story.
The video is sobering when you realize these are the last moments of a man’s life.
Drunkenness is a terrible thing.
I would imagine this caused a strain between the two departments.
Celebrating....early hours.....
Should have been home with his new wife.
Based on my observations of the video...
The drunk didn’t deserve to get shot, but...
The cop definitely deserved to defend himself, and with his gun.
I didn’t notice any wrongdoing by the cop. I’m guessing the cop wasn’t aggressive soon enough in order to keep the drunk in control.
Everything changed at :52 when the cop decided he was tired of the guy's protest and spun from the position which had him controlled to dropping a right knee to the guy's head, connecting, bouncing it off the concrete (this would be illegal even in the UFC but cops can do a lot more). This could easily have killed the firefighter, who then put his left arm behind the right leg of the sprawled-out cop (basically a position in which there is no way for a single-leg takedown of the cop to occur, though the firefighter has one foot temporarily on the ground). The firefighter lets go and is on his knees.
The cop is now completely out of any position to cuff the guy and has committed to wrestling.
At this point, the cop is holding the firefighter with an over-hook with his right arm and his left arm was under the firefighter's neck, in what is called an "arm in guillotine choke". The cop then stands up to ostensibly sink in the choke, picking the firefighter up after saying to the observers what sounds like, "Do I look like I need help here?"
As the cop drives forward the firefighter has placed his left arm under the cop's crotch (lifting the person choking the other is actually a proper defense to a guillotine choke) who has no way to post up on his left arm (because it's under the firefighter's neck) and rolls the cop onto his back. The firefighter now has the cop in "side control". Both cop and firefighter have open hands on each other's faces while the firefighter's left hand is posted on the ground under the cop's right armpit. At 1:06 the firefighter's left elbow is on the ground. The cop is already reaching for his gun. At 1:08 as the firefighter pulls his left hand out, the cop begins to draw his firearm.
The firefighter has the cop's head controlled with his left hand and throws one right hand to the left eye of the cop, the next misses and as the camera jumps to only show the reflection in the storefront windows, we hear two slow shots, about a second apart. That guy was dead as soon as the cop landed on his back, who was reaching for it before a single strike was thrown by the firefighter (not really a good time to wait I don't blame him).
Horrible situation that could have been de-escalated rather than turning into a mixed martial arts fight on the pavement. The cop (aside from not properly cuffing the guy then dropping a knee on the guy's head) could have taken a step back at pretty much any point especially considering he was standing for most of the recorded altercation. I would think getting into a wrestling match would be the least-desired situation considering his gun was within reach of the firefighter from then on. He gave up a position of control, in order to go for a high risk knee strike.
I will say I don't doubt that the firefighter was a trouble maker. I'll bet there is some collegiate wrestling in his background and he knew he could kick some people's asses. Ironically, this shows that submissions might be better than G-N-P on an armed combatant. Had the firefighter gone for a Kimura on the right arm instead of punches, he could have controlled the drawn firearm and still be alive. (Sorry to sound insensitive, this is a good real life self defense situation/lesson). Terrible for everybody, some more than others of course.
If I ever see something like this, I'm going to put down the camera and help the cop if only just to keep the drunk from getting himself killed.
Justified. Open and shut case.
Good shoot by cop. Good riddance to roid-rage drunk.
BTW....cop was unconcious when help arrived. Required surgery.
Here is picture of the cop. The front of his face looks like the back of Zimmerman's head.
Perhaps he could have done some things different, but the bulk of the blame for what happened here goes to the drunk that got killed.