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1 posted on 02/23/2014 8:23:59 AM PST by Signalman
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If he truly worked “decades” that is a fairly meager pension for a civil servant.

Of course the devil may be in the details.


2 posted on 02/23/2014 8:26:48 AM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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Considering he can’t live on what he gets now, any cut would be superfluous.


3 posted on 02/23/2014 8:29:19 AM PST by Redmen4ever
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Maybe a reverse mortgage would help... I mean with Detroit property values being what they are.


4 posted on 02/23/2014 8:34:25 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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Perhaps Donald should have planned better for his old age. Maybe even saved some of his income over the years. It’s not like getting old is an unexpected event.


5 posted on 02/23/2014 8:35:12 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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6 posted on 02/23/2014 8:36:03 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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I think I would start raiding the bank accounts and personal properties of the city council members and union leadership who approved impossible deals.


7 posted on 02/23/2014 8:37:07 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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Detroit retiree on pension cuts: 'I can't live on what I get now'

Your mistake is thinking that the Democrats who promised you the pension to buy your vote back then care about whether you live now.

8 posted on 02/23/2014 8:37:52 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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he retired at 50!!! i think i see the problem right there...
9 posted on 02/23/2014 8:38:02 AM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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I don’t understand how you get a public employee pension AND social security. I thought that if you got a public employee pension you didn’t even pay into social security.

that is the way it is in California and the unions in Michigan are at least as strong as they are in California


11 posted on 02/23/2014 8:39:32 AM PST by Nifster
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...said 69-year-old Donald Smith, who retired in 2005 after decades of work as a civilian detention officer and other general city democrat patronage jobs.

Fixed it...

Guy has been retired for 9 years which means he retired at age 60...

G.A.S. meter is busted...

15 posted on 02/23/2014 8:44:50 AM PST by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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"You f***-ed up, you trusted us!"


16 posted on 02/23/2014 8:49:47 AM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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His pension based on those numbers now is slightly over 10K. He was on a defined benefit plan and worked decades meaning more than 20 years. To me that seems like a small number and if accurate, cutting that pension a third is not realistic. Perhaps pensions at that meager amount should be excluded from the decrease. Incidently, the average pension of general employees in Detroit is about 18.5K per year.

If there is not money to pay these meager pension costs, somebody der been skimming da pot for der own benefit I think. Perhaps the politicians who made this mess up should be sued for their entire pensions citing they violated their fiduciary responsibility to their employees.


20 posted on 02/23/2014 8:59:28 AM PST by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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“If they go and cut that, how am I going to live off of that?”

Public Sector workers too often do not realize that someone has to pay for their pensions. When there isn’t enough private sector activity to tax, and when pension funds were not funded - but pensions were promised, then there is a disconnect.

How is the private sector worker supposed to retire when there are so many public sector retirees “living off of that”?


23 posted on 02/23/2014 9:07:34 AM PST by RFEngineer
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Sue the Democrat party. They caused this and they have lots of money.


26 posted on 02/23/2014 9:10:46 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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Who did you vote for all those years Donald?


27 posted on 02/23/2014 9:10:48 AM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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Given that most state,county and municipal “workers” in this country actually sit around on their fat a$$es all day *pretending* to work I have absolutely no sympathy here.
29 posted on 02/23/2014 9:17:29 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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I think the big problem here is that people are retiring too early. Many people have a sense of entitlement concerning their retirement. If you expect to retire at age 50 or 55 in this day and age, you better have at least a couple million dollars in net worth (including 401k and pension) or don't even think about it. Unless you are willing to live a very spartan lifestyle.

Years ago, the average male would be dead by age 70. So it was hard to begrudge the retirement age of 65. However, many of us are living well into our 80s and 90s. Not only that, but most men in their 60s still have their health and must of their vitality. They should be in the workforce.

I'm 52 years old and I'm not even thinking about retirement. I'm having too much fun in my job (Regional manager for a large firm) and I figure I easily have another 20 years in the tank in which I could go full throttle and maybe make it to the Senior VP level. I still feel as healthy as I did when I was in my mid-30s.

So I am expecting to be working well into my early 70s. Also, my biggest money making years are still ahead of me. It would be crazy for me to retire now and I don't understand the mindset of others who think they should be retiring when still in their 50s or even 60s (unless they have health issues or are so financially independent that they simply don't need any additional income).

30 posted on 02/23/2014 9:17:53 AM PST by SamAdams76
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Can’t live on $2000 a month (after the cut)?? May be he has all his medical paid for, too.


31 posted on 02/23/2014 9:18:05 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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Here’s the interview you’ll never see.

“I voted for the con men in the Democrat party. They promised me benefits that they knew would never be possible and stole money like crazy from the city treasury to finance their lavish lifestyle. Now, I’m in trouble because I believed that there was a free lunch. I don’t believe that I should be held responsible for voting for people that I knew were thieves. I believed that the Democrat thieves would steal enough for me to retire on. How was I supposed to know that my electing thieves to office in Detroit would make taxpayers leave Detroit? I’m stupid and greedy. Doesn’t that mean you should feel sorry for me and give me some of your money? Yes, I will continue to vote Democrat. They look out for me.”


32 posted on 02/23/2014 9:19:03 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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Those retirees voted all those Dims into office for years believing the promises of pensions made of gold. Now, too late the retirees learn that their pensions aren’t worth the paper they are printed on.


38 posted on 02/23/2014 9:25:25 AM PST by KeyLargo
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