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I look forward to comments from FReepers knowledgeable in science. I will say from a Biblical standpoint that if this is true, it won't change anything. The Catholic Church has doctrine on the purpose of sex and marriage that won't change.

He said: ‘Clearly parents should not be allowed to torture or kill babies. But they can currently choose to terminate a pregnancy early on, so they should be allowed to have as much information on the future child as possible.’

Wouldn't it be quite ironic that two liberal pillars contradict each other so. The irony is also that the intolerant conservatives who are pro-life and opposed to gay marriage would keep their child regardless because they are pro-life. I would.

1 posted on 02/13/2014 8:45:01 PM PST by Pinkbell
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So, what was the control group? No mention of a control group.


85 posted on 02/14/2014 3:28:34 AM PST by savedbygrace (But God!)
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To: Pinkbell
Strengthens claims homosexuality is decided by biology, not choice . . . two pieces of DNA that seem to be linked to homosexuality . . .

A tendency to alcoholism is also in the genes (I know, I inherited it). Genetics are not destiny; one can choose whether to drink to excess (something I have chosen, occasionally with great difficulty, never to do).

A tendency to adultery is in the genes for many people. Again, one can choose how to respond to that desire.

As for a tendency to homosexuality, one can choose whether to act on those urges. My neighbor is a nice man with five kids and is absolutely devoted to his wife. His identical twin brother was gay and died of AIDS several years ago. Same genes, different choices.

86 posted on 02/14/2014 3:28:44 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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This article is absolute bull and not scientific. I can prove it in a lab setting.

First, the physical body is a manifestation of the soul or spirit, not vice versa. Consciousness is the driving influence.

There are two aspects of the soul that need to merge in order to become “whole.” The experience of being “whole” is the driving influence of the feeling of “love” which merges two souls in order to allow them to feel whole by using another soul as a crutch. It’s the reason that Paul said what he did about being single and two becoming one in the eyes of God. The two aspects of the soul are the masculine and feminine.

I can identify the specific event in a person’s life when they switched their gender identity. Attraction is based upon the masculine and feminine aspects of the soul merging, not gender. Although, stereo-typically the gender tends to align with the dominant aspect of consciousness in the soul.

Dominant controlling women have a masculine aspect of consciousness stronger than their feminine. When they get into a codependent relationship with their son’s, the son’s consciousness develops into the compliment of the mother to balance the codependent relationship. Thus controlling mothers tend to have feminine sons. There are other influencing factors, but the mother influence is the strongest.

Stem cells are not masculine nor feminine, nor are they heart muscle or bone cells. It is the consciousness of the soul around the cell that gives it life and guides it through development. The soul is the source of life, or rather “Is the Life.”

I’ve done a lot of work with gays and lesbians in the last twenty+ years of my work. What I say here I also say to groups of them when I am lecturing. Then I demonstrate and prove it. I do not judge them as they are already judging themselves beyond what others impose upon them.

Even gay relationships have one dominant masculine and one dominant feminine. The choice to be gay or not is totally an intellectual decision. If a feminine man does not believe it is acceptable to be with a man in a relationship, they will find a masculine female to balance them out. The attraction is not generated by gender, but by dominant consciousness flow pattern being attracted toward its compliment to balance it.

I have also noticed the various illness manifestations resulting from the consciousness flow patterns in the soul. Autism and Asperger’s Syndrome is dominant masculine consciousness. MS is a dominant feminine aspect of consciousness. I’ve now tested fourteen people with MS and in every one the event that shifted their consciousness happened at age four. I’ve noticed that suppression of the feminine aspect also manifests as cysts on the ovaries or PCOS.

Intelligent design is scientific as the intelligence is in the soul as consciousness. Jesus healed the body by healing the soul. If you just raise the operational frequency of your consciousness through prayer and meditation focused upon God, other people’s souls and the thoughts and memories contained in them become physical and tangible to your senses. It’s how Jesus knew the thoughts and memories of all people around Him.


87 posted on 02/14/2014 3:30:32 AM PST by tired&retired
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It is not known which of the many genes they contain are key or how they affect the development of sexual orientation. However, the result, revealed at the American Association for the Advancement of Science’s prestigious annual conference, backs up a contentious 1993 study.

Sounds like a media planted story. No detailed info, no mention of peer review....

91 posted on 02/14/2014 4:01:35 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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Dr Michael Bailey from Northwestern University in Illinois, who contributed to the latest study, said it is the biggest of its kind. He added: ‘Sexual orientation has nothing to do with choice. Our findings suggest there may be genes at play – we found evidence for two sets that affect whether a man is gay or straight

Abundant evidence in these two sentences that the "study" had more to do with politics than science.

92 posted on 02/14/2014 4:12:50 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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If it is in the genes, and it can be tested prior to birth....will the left insist on a law that you cannot abort because your fetus has this gene?


93 posted on 02/14/2014 4:17:07 AM PST by BRL
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The good part about the Queer Gene is that when detected in the routine fetal genetic disease tests, the pregnancy can be terminated

(I subscribe to neither practice, merely stating the possibilities)


99 posted on 02/14/2014 4:30:48 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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Well, I have an undergraduate science degree but it doesn’t take that to know that this headline is way past propaganda, its a lie.

The story is that the found a possible link

With global warning, the public think now is that they get to have an opinion. So people fight over issues that are truths. Either there’s a gay gene or there isn’t. They haven’t proven it

But they just have to think about our creator, which most don’t. How were we created?

As in alcoholism, either its learned and devoloped or it is genetic. It’s likely both depending on the person. In either case, the behavior is the issue. Stop it. It’s destructive


104 posted on 02/14/2014 4:58:37 AM PST by stanne
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Any comments?


110 posted on 02/14/2014 5:27:12 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Pinkbell

It would not be ironic,it would be another affirmation that the bible is the only consistent moral authority.


114 posted on 02/14/2014 5:36:26 AM PST by Raycpa
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Being gay could be in the DNA>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Gays are created . Look at long term prisoners in penitentiaries. They become “queers”. Its learned behaviour.

And now the left wants us to believe they are all “intrinsically gay?”

No. Its learned behaviour.Gays can unlearn their sexual orientation.Try creating prisons which house lesbians incarcerated along with the majority heterosexual males and watch what happens.


115 posted on 02/14/2014 5:38:42 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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"Sexual orientation has nothing to do with choice. Our findings suggest there may be genes at play – we found evidence for two sets that affect whether a man is gay or straight. ‘Although this could one day lead to a pre-natal test for male sexual orientation, it would not be very accurate, as there are other factors that can influence the outcome.’"

First he states his conclusion as a rock-solid fact: "NOTHING to do with choice." Then he says his evidence "affect" whether a man is gay or straight (not DETERMINE), and goes on to say a pre-natal test would not be very accurate. Stay tuned for further weasel wording and waffling.

116 posted on 02/14/2014 5:50:12 AM PST by Albion Wilde (The less a man knows, the more certain he is that he knows it all.)
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How do boys who were abused by homosexuals become gay? Osmosis?
I believe this is all spiritual.

Ephesians 6:12
King James Version (KJV)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.


118 posted on 02/14/2014 5:57:38 AM PST by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
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What is it was 100% proven that some people are born with a propensity to homosexual behavior?

What if some people are born with a propensity to kill? Shall we celebrate the murderer?

What if this propensity could be removed?

What if the answer isn’t in science or medicine?

A final note. Do not misunderstand what is at stake here. This is not merely a culture war. This is not even about normalizing homosexuality even. This is about the age old, epic battle between the forces of good and evil. And this is the latest skirmish in which evil is determined to make the God of Heaven and Earth look foolish. It’s an attempt to mock God’s order and to tear it down.


119 posted on 02/14/2014 5:59:20 AM PST by JimSp
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Can’t possibly be true if one believes Scripture: “God is not willing that ANY should perish ...”


122 posted on 02/14/2014 6:11:48 AM PST by Theodore R. (Alas: TX Republicans to endorse Cornball and George P! Stay tuned March 4)
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See? It's not their fault. It's just like being black.

/s

137 posted on 02/14/2014 7:41:03 AM PST by Manic_Episode (GOP = The Whig Party)
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What is not being considered is the possibility that can parents behavior change genes DNA.

Grandma’s Experiences Leave a Mark on Your Genes:

Your ancestors’ lousy childhoods or excellent adventures might change your personality, bequeathing anxiety or resilience by altering the epigenetic expressions of genes in the brain. - http://discovermagazine.com/2013/may/13-grandmas-experiences-leave-epigenetic-mark-on-your-genes#.Uv4-gbSJveY

Rat pups who receive high or low nurturing from their mothers develop epigenetic differences that affect their response to stress later in life. When the female pups become mothers themselves, the ones that received high quality care become high nurturing mothers. And the ones that received low quality care become low nurturing mothers. - http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/epigenetics/inheritance/


140 posted on 02/14/2014 8:07:24 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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The confirmation of the existence of a ‘gay gene’ or genes will strengthen arguments that homosexuality is a matter of biology, rather than choice.

Then it can be eliminated (in men).

143 posted on 02/14/2014 9:16:28 AM PST by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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Cancer and Alzheimers is in your DNA, too.

Maybe we should have parades that celebrate Alzheimers.

The end of the parade would be an undetermined time and place.

150 posted on 02/14/2014 11:52:02 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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