Posted on 02/13/2014 8:45:00 PM PST by Pinkbell
There are many misconceptions around homosexual behavior. One is that it is an absolute on-off switch. At least among the many, many gay men I knew when I worked in the arts, it's wasn't. Many, if not most, of them had also had sex with women. Many were, or had been married to women and had grown children, then they came out. They appeared to simply prefer their lives of campiness and sexual promiscuity.
Can’t possibly be true if one believes Scripture: “God is not willing that ANY should perish ...”
Note the verbiage.
That is typical scientific language that scientists are taught to use. It is meant to reflect the fact that they are speaking of their interpretation of their experimental findings, which can later be shown to be inaccurate, incomplete, or otherwise incorrect. One way to tell if a real scientist, rather than a quack, is talking is by the use of those "hedge words," as I call them. A quack always states everything as incontrovertible fact and never expresses uncertainty, while the scientist always speaks in the language of probability.
Don't you mean, they have a good chance of becoming a violent psychopath? Many people are psychopaths, yet are socialized through upbringing to function as civilized members of society.
I remain convinced that Bill Clinton is a psychopath.
Schizophrenia is a genetic condition, yet many individuals with the genes that cause it never develop it. That is because gene expression is influenced by environment. Geneticists talk about traits being n% caused by genetics and (100 - n)% caused by environment, because almost all genetic conditions have an environmental component. The "environment" can be a range of factors--an infectious disease, exposure to a noxious chemical, suboptimal conditions during birth, etc.
Yes, I know, but the average presstitute and LIV doesn’t know that.
Indeed. My first boyfriend had an identical twin, yet they were only as similar as two boys from the same parents might be. I had a boss who had a twin--he did not know if they were identical, but thought they probably weren't--who looked identical to him in photographs, although in person, they were quite distinct. I've met other twin pairs who were indistinguishable. Environment has quite an effect on appearance, even with identical twins.
You know that, I know that, and many folks on this thread know that. Do the presstitutes know that? Do the LIVs know that?
Excuse me? Are you aware that there are many different fields of science, and that scientists typically only communicate with others in closely related fields? Not only are politically-driven climate scientists NOT involved in this research, I doubt whether any of the researchers who did this study even know a climate scientist.
I've been a career scientist for nearly 20 years now, and I have yet to meet a climatologist.
The researchers who did this study are not climate scientists, and have almost certainly never conducted any kind of climate science research. Scientists are not one big group of interchangeable homogeneous automatons--we are individuals, and act as individuals in any profession do.
In other words, don't paint every scientist with the same broad brush. The subversion of one small area of science by politicians does not mean that all science is equally subverted.
Even your undergraduate science classes should have covered the fact that expression of genetic traits is dependent on environment. They should have discussed the significance of twin studies, which have shown that a large number of traits have n% genetic component and (100 - n)% environmental component. I remember covering that subject in-depth in my undergraduate genetics class.
“Schizophrenia is a genetic condition, yet many individuals with the genes that cause it never develop it.”
I understand your point and your point is true It’s classic nature vs nurture.
But as far as the statement on schizophrenia, there’s no basis for what you wrote.
Genetic components in schizophrenia are still being examined with no definitive answer yet.
Yes, quite a few, in fact.
In addition to the comments I have already added to this thread (which are mostly correcting people's misconceptions of various aspects of science), I will add the following.
The results of this study will need to be verified in future studies. It is very possible that some genes influence--not cause, but influence--the decision to be homosexual. It may very well be that certain genes are additive in their influence--for instance, gene A has 3% effect, gene B has 2% effect, and so on, so that different combinations of genes would contribute differentially to homosexuality. But genes are not the only factor. There is some evidence that epigenetics--DNA modifications that do not change the sequence of DNA, but affect the level of expression of the genes encoded in DNA--play a role in the eventual outcome of homosexuality. The epigenetic imprinting is largely a result of environmental factors, like exposure to noxious chemicals or infectious disease. Early childhood experiences probably also play a role.
I think that further research will show that homosexuality is a multi-component disease, much like autism and schizophrenia are proving to be. That is good--the more we know about it, the more we will be able to intervene early on to prevent or control the pathology.
I should also add that the counter to all of those who love to claim that homosexuality is perfectly natural is to point out that psychopathy, cleft lip, scoliosis, obsessive-compulsive disorder, meningitis, and so on, are also natural, and that we do not withhold treatment from people just because their diseases are natural.
I didnt even go that far.
The culture if control wants us to treat gays as a victim class, like a race of victims.
That’s the headline
The first sentence says they think, not, they know, and here is the ID of the gene
Obama declared global warming to be a fact. That gives the cashier at whole foods the right to harass me to judge me as morally inferior, in front of my kids, for not bringing my bags from home
And yet, she’s an idiot. Science does not work in a way that the dictators get to say what’s true
I’ll bring my bags to go along with the game, and these guys are beyond reason. But no one has explained just how the whole thing works, be aide they can’t.
We just don’t have the right to say what is good and what is evil. Our creator has done that, it’s in genesis.
Genetic components in schizophrenia are still being examined with no definitive answer yet.
Twin studies conducted decades ago revealed a genetic component to schizophrenia, with the genes involved still being worked out. The evidence so far is that many genes contribute to the condition. One can say that the genes set the predisposition, while environment provides the trigger.
Many genetic conditions follow the same pattern.
“only a perverted mind can think that. when i am with a woman there’s no way i could be having sex with her but be thinking of a guy.”
Because you have the common and accepted sexual attraction. Nobody will tell you it is wrong or perverted. These men in the closet are terrified of “coming out” and maintain relationships with women as a front. They may only act on their attraction in secret.
There are men out there who have the same sexual attraction to men that women have. Sometimes they are also attracted to women and sometimes not at all.
We may consider it a disease, perverted, etc. What you think of it is up to you but the fact is that some people have a nearly 100% attraction to the same sex and this typically can not be changed.
Reprogramming very gay men is the equivalent of trying to program you and me to be sexually attracted to men. Never happening. Only men that are bisexual to begin with can be convinced to only have relationships with women.
It’s difficult to imagine from a “straight” perspective but sexuality can be very different and weird in some individuals. Even many straight people have strange fetishes.
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The problem with a Gay Gene means that you can treat it. You CAN cure it.
There are also laws on the books (Americans with Disabilities Act) that speak to accommodations for those with debilitating illnesses.
Most importantly, the identification of a Gay Gene would make the classification of homosexuality as an ILLNESS not only appropriate, but scientifically valid.
It means that homosexuality is not normative behavior, but a symptom of a genetic disorder. If the same gene is also linked to pedophilia and other types of fetishes, it means that a promising new therapy may be available to eradicate the world of child rape.
It also solidly classifies ‘gay marriage’ as something in the same general category of ignorant responses to not-well-understood conditions as witch trials.
First, I can’t believe the folks who are on the research are still alive, and still funded. Second, if they succeed in their research, and a vaccine is developed for homosexuality and pedophilia, then the world will be a much better place.
Yes, I am.
I referred to them as politicists for a reason.
However, those same people have corrupted the words science and scientists.
They have harmed you and what you do by pretending to be like you and spreading lies.
Maybe you should tell them to stop lying and do so publically in a very visible manner, because it has caused damage.
Just from my own point of view, I don’t believe anyone in America speaks truth anymore.
I believe America is a country of lies, and in lies we trust.
In America, you cannot even trust the weather report.
What is not being considered is the possibility that can parents behavior change genes DNA.
Grandma’s Experiences Leave a Mark on Your Genes:
Your ancestors’ lousy childhoods or excellent adventures might change your personality, bequeathing anxiety or resilience by altering the epigenetic expressions of genes in the brain. - http://discovermagazine.com/2013/may/13-grandmas-experiences-leave-epigenetic-mark-on-your-genes#.Uv4-gbSJveY
Rat pups who receive high or low nurturing from their mothers develop epigenetic differences that affect their response to stress later in life. When the female pups become mothers themselves, the ones that received high quality care become high nurturing mothers. And the ones that received low quality care become low nurturing mothers. - http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/epigenetics/inheritance/
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